Model comparison
Qwen3 8B vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
Qwen3 8B and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 2 shared benchmarks.
Alibaba (Qwen)
Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)Summary
- They share 2 benchmarks with published results for both. Qwen3 8B scores higher in 3 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 2 categories; 4 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3 8B leads 34.9 to 14.2.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 56.1% for Qwen3 8B and 4.4% for Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B.
Side by side
| Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) |
| Noometry Index | 33.7 | 33.0 |
| Released | 2025-04 | 2024-11-21 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | 131K | — |
| Max output | 8K | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | $0.18 | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | $0.70 | — |
| Results tracked | 11 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Qwen3 8B: 34.0 (#248), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| SciCode | 22.6% | — |
| LMArena Coding | — | 1235 |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Qwen3 8B: 30.2 (#78), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: —
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard | 42.6% | — |
Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Qwen3 8B: 16.6 (#303), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| CritPt | 0% | — |
| Chess Puzzles | 5% | — |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | — | 1220 |
| DTBench | 59.7% | — |
| LMCA | 8.8% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 136.17 | — |
Math Qwen3 8B leads
Qwen3 8B: 34.9 (#191), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 56.1% | 4.4% |
| LMArena Math | — | 1242 |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 42.7% |
Knowledge Qwen3 8B leads
Qwen3 8B: 36.1 (#173), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 56.8% | 46.3% |
| Vectara Hallucination Rate | 4.8% | — |
Multilingual Not comparable
Qwen3 8B: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | — | 1236 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1249 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1246 |
Instruction Following Not comparable
Qwen3 8B: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | — | 1233 |
Long Context Too close to call
Qwen3 8B: 37.9 (#210), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Fiction.LiveBench | 62.1% | — |
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1224 |
Writing & Preference Not comparable
Qwen3 8B: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)
| Benchmark | Qwen3 8B | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | — | 1256 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1231 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1252 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Qwen3 8B better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?
Qwen3 8B and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Is Qwen3 8B or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?
Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 36.0 versus 34.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Qwen3 8B and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?
2 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen3 8B has 11 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.