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Model comparison

Grok-2 (Dec 2024) vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.

Last verified . 14 shared benchmarks.

Grok-2 (Dec 2024) xAI

33.7

Rank #239 Confirmed

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)

33.0

Rank #251 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 14 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok-2 (Dec 2024) scores higher in 6 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 2 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads 23.9 to 16.9.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is MATH Level 5: 63.5% for Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and 42.7% for Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B.
  • Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Grok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
ProviderxAIAllen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Noometry Index33.733.0
Released2024-08-132024-11-21
WeightsProprietaryOpen
Context window——
Max output——
Input $ / M tokens——
Output $ / M tokens——
Results tracked3414

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Category by category

Coding Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 33.3 (#258), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Coding12871235
WeirdML22.2%—
LiveBench Coding46.4%—

Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 16.9 (#299), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Hard Prompts12721220
SimpleBench22.7%—
LiveBench Reasoning54.8%—
DTBench65.2%—
LiveBench Data Analysis54.5%—
Epoch Capabilities Index130.48—
LiveBench54.3%—

Math Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 20.8 (#284), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202511.5%4.4%
LMArena Math12831242
MATH Level 563.5%42.7%
LiveBench Math54.9%—
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)0.7%—

Knowledge Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 29.8 (#233), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
GPQA Diamond53.8%46.3%
Confabulations20.1%—
LMArena Expert1254—

Multilingual Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 43.1 (#188), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Non-English12821236
LMArena Chinese12891249
LMArena Russian12861246
LMArena French1318—
LMArena German1287—
LMArena Japanese1244—
LMArena Korean1237—
LMArena Spanish1281—

Instruction Following Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 66.9 (#202), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Instruction Following12701233
LiveBench Instruction Following69.6%—

Long Context Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 38.8 (#190), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Longer Query12761224

Writing & Preference Grok-2 (Dec 2024) leads

Grok-2 (Dec 2024): 48.6 (#198), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)

BenchmarkGrok-2 (Dec 2024)Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Text13051256
LMArena Creative Writing12841231
LMArena Multi-Turn12901252
Short-Story Creative Writing63.6%—
LiveBench Language45.6%—

Frequently asked questions

Is Grok-2 (Dec 2024) better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B score almost the same on the Noometry Index (33.7 vs 33.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.

Is Grok-2 (Dec 2024) or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 36.0 versus 33.3 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Grok-2 (Dec 2024) and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

14 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok-2 (Dec 2024) has 34 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.

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