Model comparison

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 29.0 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 2 shared benchmarks.

Summary

  • They share 2 benchmarks with published results for both. Qwen2.5 7B Instruct scores higher in 2 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 4 categories; 5 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads 23.9 to 14.8.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is GPQA Diamond: 35.5% for Qwen2.5 7B Instruct and 46.3% for Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B.

Side by side

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B specifications
Qwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
ProviderAlibaba (Qwen)Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Noometry Index29.033.0
Released2024-092024-11-21
WeightsOpenOpen
Context window131K—
Max output8K—
Input $ / M tokens$0.17—
Output $ / M tokens$0.70—
Results tracked1514

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Category by category

Coding Too close to call

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 36.5 (#208), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
BigCodeBench Instruct37.6%—
LMArena Coding—1235
BigCodeBench Complete46.1%—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 23.8 (#124), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: —

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
BALROG7.8%—

Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 14.8 (#322), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
Chess Puzzles0%—
LMArena Hard Prompts—1220
DTBench47.7%—
LMCA6.4%—
Epoch Capabilities Index118.51—

Math Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 12.6 (#306), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20252.5%4.4%
Omni-MATH29.4%—
LMArena Math—1242
MATH Level 5—42.7%

Knowledge Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 17.0 (#286), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
GPQA Diamond35.5%46.3%
MMLU-Pro53.9%—
GPQA (HELM)34.1%—
MMLU72.9%—

Multilingual Not comparable

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Non-English—1236
LMArena Chinese—1249
LMArena Russian—1246

Instruction Following Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 63.2 (#231), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
IFEval74.1%—
LMArena Instruction Following—1233

Long Context Not comparable

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Longer Query—1224

Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 7B Instruct leads

Qwen2.5 7B Instruct: 48.8 (#195), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkQwen2.5 7B InstructTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Text—1256
LMArena Creative Writing—1231
WildBench73.1%—
LMArena Multi-Turn—1252

Frequently asked questions

Is Qwen2.5 7B Instruct better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 29.0 on the Noometry Index.

Is Qwen2.5 7B Instruct or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

They score almost the same on coding (36.5 vs 36.0); test both on your own repository before choosing.

How many benchmarks do Qwen2.5 7B Instruct and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

2 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen2.5 7B Instruct has 15 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.

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