Model comparison
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.9 to 29.7 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 19 shared benchmarks.
Microsoft
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 19 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct scores higher in 1 category and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct in 7 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads 46.7 to 27.1.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is BigCodeBench Instruct: 29.6% for Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct and 45.8% for Qwen2.5 72B Instruct.
Side by side
| Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 29.7 | 31.9 |
| Released | 2024-04-23 | 2024-09 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.40 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $5.60 |
| Results tracked | 19 | 43 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 28.8 (#312), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 33.2 (#260)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 29.6% | 45.8% |
| LMArena Coding | 1039 | 1292 |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 40.6% | 55.9% |
| WeirdML | — | 16% |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: —, Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.1 (#133)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| TheAgentCompany | — | 5.7% |
| BALROG | — | 16.2% |
| METR Time Horizons | — | 35.8% |
Reasoning Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 19.6 (#256), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.3 (#199)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1028 | 1271 |
| DTBench | — | 62.9% |
| LMCA | — | 13.4% |
| BIG-Bench Hard | — | 79.8% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 129 |
| ForecastBench | — | 57.5 |
| HellaSwag | — | 84.8% |
| PIQA | — | 82.6% |
| WinoGrande | — | 82.3% |
Math Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 31.6 (#222), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 19.3 (#287)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1089 | 1283 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 8.1% |
| Omni-MATH | — | 33% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 63.2% |
Knowledge Too close to call
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 26.8 (#254), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 27.0 (#253)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 984 | 1245 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 49.1% |
| MMLU-Pro | — | 63.1% |
| Confabulations | — | 19.1% |
| GPQA (HELM) | — | 42.6% |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | — | 94.5% |
| MMLU | — | 85.3% |
| TriviaQA | — | 71.9% |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 25.2 (#285), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 41.0 (#213)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1000 | 1252 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1016 | 1272 |
| LMArena French | 1039 | 1280 |
| LMArena German | 1006 | 1234 |
| LMArena Japanese | 899 | 1180 |
| LMArena Korean | 856 | 1188 |
| LMArena Russian | 1004 | 1264 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1059 | 1256 |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 51.8 (#294), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 65.5 (#221)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1023 | 1254 |
| IFEval | — | 80.6% |
Long Context Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 30.4 (#289), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 38.9 (#188)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 996 | 1282 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 27.1 (#301), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 46.7 (#215)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1050 | 1269 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1024 | 1221 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 989 | 1272 |
| WildBench | — | 80.2% |
Frequently asked questions
Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct better than Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.9 to 29.7 on the Noometry Index.
Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct or Qwen2.5 72B Instruct better for coding?
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct scores higher on coding benchmarks: 33.2 versus 28.8 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct share?
19 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct has 19 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has 43.