Model comparison

Palm 2 vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.

Palm 2 Google

30.0

Rank #298 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Palm 2 scores higher in 1 category and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 6 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads 45.6 to 25.6.
  • Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

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Palm 2 and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B specifications
Palm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
ProviderGoogleAllen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Noometry Index30.033.0
Released—2024-11-21
WeightsProprietaryOpen
Context window——
Max output——
Input $ / M tokens——
Output $ / M tokens——
Results tracked1014

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Category by category

Coding Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 29.0 (#311), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Coding9941235

Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 19.1 (#271), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Hard Prompts10051220

Math Palm 2 leads

Palm 2: 30.8 (#231), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Math10491242
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025—4.4%
MATH Level 5—42.7%

Knowledge Not comparable

Palm 2: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
GPQA Diamond—46.3%

Multilingual Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 20.9 (#295), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Non-English9161236
LMArena Chinese8871249
LMArena Russian—1246

Instruction Following Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 51.0 (#296), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Instruction Following10101233

Long Context Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 30.8 (#285), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Longer Query10101224

Writing & Preference Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Palm 2: 25.6 (#304), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkPalm 2Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Text10271256
LMArena Creative Writing9911231
LMArena Multi-Turn9941252

Frequently asked questions

Is Palm 2 better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.

Is Palm 2 or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 36.0 versus 29.0 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Palm 2 and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Palm 2 has 10 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.

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