Model comparison
Molmo 2 8b vs Qwen2.5 Plus 1127
Molmo 2 8b and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 score almost the same on the Noometry Index (39.1 vs 38.8), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Molmo 2 8b scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 in 2 categories, but none of those gaps is larger than the uncertainty.
- Molmo 2 8b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 39.1 | 38.8 |
| Released | — | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 5 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 38.5 (#175)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | — | 1314 |
Reasoning Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 25.6 (#146), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 25.9 (#141)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1287 | 1299 |
Math Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 36.1 (#174)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | — | 1298 |
Knowledge Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 35.5 (#183)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | — | 1289 |
Multimodal Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: 30.2 (#112), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: —
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1081 | — |
Multilingual Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 42.7 (#190), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 41.9 (#201)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1276 | 1265 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1314 |
| LMArena German | — | 1231 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1207 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1271 |
Instruction Following Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 67.0 (#201), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 67.2 (#199)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1270 | 1275 |
Long Context Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 39.2 (#184)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1292 |
Writing & Preference Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 49.4 (#191), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 49.4 (#192)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1288 | 1299 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1262 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1299 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Molmo 2 8b better than Qwen2.5 Plus 1127?
Molmo 2 8b and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 score almost the same on the Noometry Index (39.1 vs 38.8), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
How many benchmarks do Molmo 2 8b and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Molmo 2 8b has 5 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 has 14.