Model comparison
Molmo 2 8b vs Qwen Max
Molmo 2 8b is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.1 to 34.7 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Molmo 2 8b scores higher in 4 categories and Qwen Max in 0 categories; one gap is clear of the uncertainty.
- Molmo 2 8b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 39.1 | 34.7 |
| Released | — | 2024-04-03 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | 33K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.60 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $6.40 |
| Results tracked | 5 | 23 |
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Category by category
Coding Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen Max: 30.7 (#292)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| Aider Polyglot | — | 21.8% |
| LMArena Coding | — | 1288 |
Reasoning Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 25.6 (#146), Qwen Max: 25.1 (#151)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1287 | 1269 |
Math Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen Max: 22.3 (#276)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 16.1% |
| LMArena Math | — | 1275 |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 67.2% |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | — | 1% |
Knowledge Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen Max: 30.3 (#228)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 56.1% |
| LMArena Expert | — | 1248 |
Multimodal Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: 30.2 (#112), Qwen Max: —
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1081 | — |
Multilingual Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 42.7 (#190), Qwen Max: 41.8 (#202)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1276 | 1263 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1254 |
| LMArena French | — | 1330 |
| LMArena German | — | 1254 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1205 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1142 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1274 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1290 |
Instruction Following Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 67.0 (#201), Qwen Max: 66.5 (#208)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1270 | 1262 |
Long Context Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen Max: 39.4 (#180)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 66.7% |
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1288 |
Writing & Preference Molmo 2 8b leads
Molmo 2 8b: 49.4 (#191), Qwen Max: 47.8 (#205)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1288 | 1282 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1248 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1277 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Molmo 2 8b better than Qwen Max?
Molmo 2 8b is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.1 to 34.7 on the Noometry Index.
How many benchmarks do Molmo 2 8b and Qwen Max share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Molmo 2 8b has 5 scored results on Noometry and Qwen Max has 23.