Model comparison
Llama 3-8B vs Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 29.9 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 0 shared benchmarks.
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Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- The widest gap is in reasoning, where Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct leads 20.7 to 14.3.
Side by side
| Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 25.5 | 29.9 |
| Released | 2024-04-18 | 2024-09 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $2.80 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $8.40 |
| Results tracked | 34 | 6 |
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Category by category
Coding Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 31.0 (#289), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 31.9% | — |
| LMArena Coding | 1152 | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 36.9% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 56.7% | — |
| MBPP+ | 54.8% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: —, Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 18.6 (#144)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| OSWorld | — | 5% |
Reasoning Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct leads
Llama 3-8B: 14.3 (#326), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 20.7 (#233)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | — | 36% |
| Chess Puzzles | 0% | — |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1133 | — |
| DTBench | 43.9% | — |
| Adversarial NLI | 57.3% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 116.45 | — |
| ForecastBench | 58.6 | — |
| WinoGrande | 75.7% | — |
Math Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 8.8 (#323), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 1.9% | — |
| LMArena Math | 1151 | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 6.1% | — |
Knowledge Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 7.8 (#308), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 26.1% | — |
| LMArena Expert | 1113 | — |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 82.8% | — |
| MMLU | 68.8% | — |
| OpenBookQA | 82.6% | — |
| TriviaQA | 67.7% | — |
Multimodal Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: —, Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: 33.5 (#97)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1107 |
| Video-MME | — | 73.5% |
| GeoBench | — | 62% |
| SpatialViz-Bench | — | 33.3% |
Multilingual Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 30.8 (#261), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1098 | — |
| LMArena Chinese | 1076 | — |
| LMArena French | 1159 | — |
| LMArena German | 1104 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 967 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1004 | — |
| LMArena Russian | 1109 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1173 | — |
Instruction Following Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 58.4 (#260), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1127 | — |
Long Context Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 34.2 (#251), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1128 | — |
Writing & Preference Not comparable
Llama 3-8B: 37.5 (#256), Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1166 | — |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1150 | — |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1152 | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3-8B better than Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct?
Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 29.9 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3-8B and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct share?
0 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-8B has 34 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5-VL 72B Instruct has 6.