Noometry

Model comparison

Qwen3 Max vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

Qwen3 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 43.7 to 33.0 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 14 shared benchmarks.

Qwen3 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

43.7

Rank #87 Confirmed

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)

33.0

Rank #251 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 14 benchmarks with published results for both. Qwen3 Max scores higher in 7 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 1 category; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3 Max leads 38.7 to 14.2.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 73.3% for Qwen3 Max and 4.4% for Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B.
  • Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Qwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
ProviderAlibaba (Qwen)Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Noometry Index43.733.0
Released2025-09-232024-11-21
WeightsProprietaryOpen
Context window262K—
Max output66K—
Input $ / M tokens$1.20—
Output $ / M tokens$6—
Results tracked3314

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 43.0 (#93), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Coding14561235
ALE-Bench370.45—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Qwen3 Max: —, Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: —

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
Vending-Bench 271.56—

Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads

Qwen3 Max: 22.6 (#190), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Hard Prompts14481220
Kagi LLM Benchmark72.5%—
NYT Connections (extended)30.1%—
Chess Puzzles4%—
Mystery Game Puzzles5%—
DTBench82.1%—
LMCA28.3%—
Epoch Capabilities Index142.38—

Math Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 38.7 (#131), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202573.3%4.4%
LMArena Math14461242
MATH Level 597.1%42.7%
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)18.9%—

Knowledge Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 48.1 (#78), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
GPQA Diamond72.6%46.3%
SimpleQA Verified48.7%—
LMArena Expert1455—

Multilingual Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 53.7 (#62), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Non-English14291236
LMArena Chinese14781249
LMArena Russian14281246
LMArena French1449—
LMArena German1463—
LMArena Japanese1397—
LMArena Korean1399—
LMArena Spanish1462—

Instruction Following Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 74.8 (#87), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Instruction Following14191233

Long Context Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 41.6 (#134), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Longer Query14381224
Fiction.LiveBench66.7%—
CL-bench14.5%—

Writing & Preference Qwen3 Max leads

Qwen3 Max: 62.4 (#76), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)

BenchmarkQwen3 MaxTulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
LMArena Text14391256
LMArena Creative Writing14021231
LMArena Multi-Turn14461252

Frequently asked questions

Is Qwen3 Max better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Qwen3 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 43.7 to 33.0 on the Noometry Index.

Is Qwen3 Max or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

Qwen3 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 43.0 versus 36.0 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Qwen3 Max and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

14 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen3 Max has 33 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.

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