Model comparison
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.1 to 32.6 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 11 shared benchmarks.
Alibaba (Qwen)
Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)Summary
- They share 11 benchmarks with published results for both. Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 scores higher in 8 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 0 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads 33.5 to 13.3.
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) |
| Noometry Index | 38.1 | 32.6 |
| Released | — | 2024-11-21 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 14 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 37.9 (#171), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 35.4 (#211)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1314 | 1236 |
Reasoning Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 24.8 (#139), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 22.9 (#172)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1299 | 1220 |
Math Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 33.5 (#175), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 13.3 (#297)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1298 | 1242 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 4.4% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 42.7% |
Knowledge Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 34.9 (#179), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.1 (#257)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 46.3% |
| LMArena Expert | 1289 | — |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 42.1 (#196), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 40.1 (#217)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1265 | 1236 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1314 | 1249 |
| LMArena Russian | 1271 | 1246 |
| LMArena German | 1231 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1207 | — |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 67.4 (#194), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 65.0 (#222)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1275 | 1233 |
Long Context Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 39.2 (#180), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#217)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1292 | 1224 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 49.5 (#186), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.8 (#218)
| Benchmark | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1299 | 1256 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1262 | 1231 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1299 | 1252 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.1 to 32.6 on the Noometry Index.
Is Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 37.9 versus 35.4 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?
11 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 has 14 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.