Model comparison
Palm 2 vs Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.
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Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Palm 2 scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 27B in 7 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen3.8 27B leads 65.8 to 25.6.
- Qwen3.8 27B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | |
| Noometry Index | 30.0 | 46.0 |
| Released | — | 2026-08-14 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | — | 262K |
| Max output | — | 33K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $0.04 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $2.30 |
| Results tracked | 10 | 31 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 29.0 (#311), Qwen3.8 27B: 50.5 (#44)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 994 | 1482 |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1593 |
| SciCode | — | 46.6% |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 32.9 (#57)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | — | 47.5% |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 19.1 (#271), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.0 (#54)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1005 | 1460 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | — | 42.4% |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 54.5% |
| ARC-AGI-1 | — | 87.5% |
| CritPt | — | 5.4% |
| DTBench | — | 88% |
| LMCA | — | 41.4% |
| Surface Evolver Bench | — | 45% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 149.38 |
Math Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 30.8 (#231), Qwen3.8 27B: 37.1 (#161)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1049 | 1456 |
| ProofBench | — | 16% |
Knowledge Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 41.6 (#109)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | — | 1482 |
Multimodal Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 41.3 (#37)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1271 |
Multilingual Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 20.9 (#295), Qwen3.8 27B: 53.7 (#60)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 916 | 1430 |
| LMArena Chinese | 887 | 1504 |
| LMArena French | — | 1465 |
| LMArena German | — | 1438 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1384 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1393 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1415 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1448 |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 51.0 (#296), Qwen3.8 27B: 75.8 (#53)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1010 | 1439 |
Long Context Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 30.8 (#285), Qwen3.8 27B: 44.3 (#70)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1010 | 1450 |
Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 27B leads
Palm 2: 25.6 (#304), Qwen3.8 27B: 65.8 (#43)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1027 | 1441 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 991 | 1384 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 994 | 1441 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | — | 1671 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Palm 2 better than Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.
Is Palm 2 or Qwen3.8 27B better for coding?
Qwen3.8 27B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.5 versus 29.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Palm 2 and Qwen3.8 27B share?
10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Palm 2 has 10 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 27B has 31.