Model comparison
Molmo 2 8b vs Qwen2.5-Max
Qwen2.5-Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.7 to 39.1 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Allen Institute for AI (Ai2)
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Molmo 2 8b scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen2.5-Max in 4 categories; 3 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen2.5-Max leads 55.4 to 49.4.
- Molmo 2 8b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 39.1 | 40.7 |
| Released | — | 2025-01-25 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 5 | 27 |
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Category by category
Coding Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5-Max: 41.8 (#117)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LiveBench Coding | — | 64.4% |
| LMArena Coding | — | 1359 |
Reasoning Too close to call
Molmo 2 8b: 25.6 (#146), Qwen2.5-Max: 25.6 (#147)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1287 | 1360 |
| LiveBench Reasoning | — | 51.4% |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | — | 67.9% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 132.53 |
| LiveBench | — | 62.3% |
Math Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5-Max: 36.9 (#162)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LiveBench Math | — | 58.4% |
| LMArena Math | — | 1369 |
Knowledge Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5-Max: 35.3 (#186)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| Confabulations | — | 21.8% |
| LMArena Expert | — | 1337 |
Multimodal Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: 30.2 (#112), Qwen2.5-Max: —
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1081 | — |
Multilingual Qwen2.5-Max leads
Molmo 2 8b: 42.7 (#190), Qwen2.5-Max: 48.1 (#146)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1276 | 1352 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1382 |
| LMArena French | — | 1396 |
| LMArena German | — | 1350 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1300 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1304 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1353 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1377 |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5-Max leads
Molmo 2 8b: 67.0 (#201), Qwen2.5-Max: 71.3 (#152)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1270 | 1335 |
| LiveBench Instruction Following | — | 75.3% |
Long Context Not comparable
Molmo 2 8b: —, Qwen2.5-Max: 41.4 (#142)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1358 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5-Max leads
Molmo 2 8b: 49.4 (#191), Qwen2.5-Max: 55.4 (#146)
| Benchmark | Molmo 2 8b | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1288 | 1367 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1339 |
| Short-Story Creative Writing | — | 72.9% |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1364 |
| LiveBench Language | — | 56.3% |
Frequently asked questions
Is Molmo 2 8b better than Qwen2.5-Max?
Qwen2.5-Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.7 to 39.1 on the Noometry Index.
How many benchmarks do Molmo 2 8b and Qwen2.5-Max share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Molmo 2 8b has 5 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5-Max has 27.