Model comparison
Llama 3-8B vs Qwen2.5 Plus 1127
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.8 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 14 shared benchmarks.
Meta
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 14 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-8B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in knowledge, where Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads 35.5 to 7.8.
- Llama 3-8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 25.5 | 38.8 |
| Released | 2024-04-18 | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 34 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 31.0 (#289), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 38.5 (#175)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1152 | 1314 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 31.9% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 36.9% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 56.7% | — |
| MBPP+ | 54.8% | — |
Reasoning Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 14.3 (#326), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 25.9 (#141)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1133 | 1299 |
| Chess Puzzles | 0% | — |
| DTBench | 43.9% | — |
| Adversarial NLI | 57.3% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 116.45 | — |
| ForecastBench | 58.6 | — |
| WinoGrande | 75.7% | — |
Math Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 8.8 (#323), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 36.1 (#174)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1151 | 1298 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 1.9% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 6.1% | — |
Knowledge Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 7.8 (#308), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 35.5 (#183)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1113 | 1289 |
| GPQA Diamond | 26.1% | — |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 82.8% | — |
| MMLU | 68.8% | — |
| OpenBookQA | 82.6% | — |
| TriviaQA | 67.7% | — |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 30.8 (#261), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 41.9 (#201)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1098 | 1265 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1076 | 1314 |
| LMArena German | 1104 | 1231 |
| LMArena Japanese | 967 | 1207 |
| LMArena Russian | 1109 | 1271 |
| LMArena French | 1159 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1004 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1173 | — |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 58.4 (#260), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 67.2 (#199)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1127 | 1275 |
Long Context Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 34.2 (#251), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 39.2 (#184)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1128 | 1292 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-8B: 37.5 (#256), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 49.4 (#192)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-8B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1166 | 1299 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1150 | 1262 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1152 | 1299 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3-8B better than Qwen2.5 Plus 1127?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.8 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.
Is Llama 3-8B or Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 better for coding?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 38.5 versus 31.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3-8B and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 share?
14 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-8B has 34 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 has 14.