Model comparison
Llama 3-70B vs Qwen3 Max
Qwen3 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 43.7 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 23 shared benchmarks.
Meta
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 23 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-70B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3 Max in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in knowledge, where Qwen3 Max leads 48.1 to 20.8.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is MATH Level 5: 22.6% for Llama 3-70B and 97.1% for Qwen3 Max.
- Llama 3-70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 28.8 | 43.7 |
| Released | 2024-04-18 | 2025-09-23 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | 262K |
| Max output | — | 66K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.20 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $6 |
| Results tracked | 31 | 33 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.8 (#218), Qwen3 Max: 43.0 (#93)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1206 | 1456 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 43.6% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 54.5% | — |
| ALE-Bench | — | 370.45 |
| HumanEval+ | 72% | — |
| MBPP+ | 69% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Llama 3-70B: 21.1 (#139), Qwen3 Max: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Cybench | 5% | — |
| Vending-Bench 2 | — | 71.56 |
Reasoning Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 18.0 (#288), Qwen3 Max: 22.6 (#190)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 35.1% | 72.5% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1195 | 1448 |
| DTBench | 54.2% | 82.1% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 122.93 | 142.38 |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 30.1% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 4% |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | — | 5% |
| LMCA | — | 28.3% |
| ForecastBench | 57.1 | — |
| WinoGrande | 83.5% | — |
Math Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 12.8 (#305), Qwen3 Max: 38.7 (#131)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 4.3% | 73.3% |
| LMArena Math | 1218 | 1446 |
| MATH Level 5 | 22.6% | 97.1% |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | — | 18.9% |
Knowledge Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 20.8 (#277), Qwen3 Max: 48.1 (#78)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 40.6% | 72.6% |
| LMArena Expert | 1149 | 1455 |
| SimpleQA Verified | — | 48.7% |
| MMLU | 79.3% | — |
Multilingual Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 33.6 (#251), Qwen3 Max: 53.7 (#62)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1142 | 1429 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1114 | 1478 |
| LMArena French | 1232 | 1449 |
| LMArena German | 1169 | 1463 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1017 | 1397 |
| LMArena Korean | 1017 | 1399 |
| LMArena Russian | 1159 | 1428 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1241 | 1462 |
Instruction Following Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 62.5 (#238), Qwen3 Max: 74.8 (#87)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1194 | 1419 |
Long Context Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.6 (#240), Qwen3 Max: 41.6 (#134)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1174 | 1438 |
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 66.7% |
| CL-bench | — | 14.5% |
Writing & Preference Qwen3 Max leads
Llama 3-70B: 42.8 (#231), Qwen3 Max: 62.4 (#76)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1221 | 1439 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1210 | 1402 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1223 | 1446 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3-70B better than Qwen3 Max?
Qwen3 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 43.7 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Is Llama 3-70B or Qwen3 Max better for coding?
Qwen3 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 43.0 versus 35.8 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3-70B and Qwen3 Max share?
23 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-70B has 31 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3 Max has 33.