Model comparison
Llama 3.1-8B vs Palm 2
Palm 2 is the stronger model overall, scoring 30.0 to 23.0 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.
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- They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3.1-8B scores higher in 4 categories and Palm 2 in 3 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Palm 2 leads 30.8 to 10.2.
- Llama 3.1-8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | |
| Noometry Index | 23.0 | 30.0 |
| Released | 2024-07-23 | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | 128K | — |
| Max output | 4K | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | $0.05 | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | $0.08 | — |
| Results tracked | 43 | 10 |
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Category by category
Coding Palm 2 leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 20.2 (#340), Palm 2: 29.0 (#311)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1195 | 994 |
| SciCode | 13.2% | — |
| WeirdML | 1.7% | — |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 32.8% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 40.5% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 62.8% | — |
| MBPP+ | 55.6% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Llama 3.1-8B: 22.5 (#131), Palm 2: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard | 25.8% | — |
| BALROG | 15.1% | — |
Reasoning Palm 2 leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 14.9 (#321), Palm 2: 19.1 (#271)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1175 | 1005 |
| CritPt | 0% | — |
| Chess Puzzles | 0% | — |
| DTBench | 50.9% | — |
| LMCA | 5.4% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 116.57 | — |
| PIQA | 81.2% | — |
Math Palm 2 leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 10.2 (#317), Palm 2: 30.8 (#231)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1179 | 1049 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 1.7% | — |
| Omni-MATH | 13.7% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 22.9% | — |
| GSM8K | 82.4% | — |
Knowledge Not comparable
Llama 3.1-8B: 8.0 (#307), Palm 2: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 27% | — |
| MMLU-Pro | 40.6% | — |
| GPQA (HELM) | 24.7% | — |
| LMArena Expert | 1144 | — |
| BoolQ | 82.8% | — |
| MMLU | 56.1% | — |
Multilingual Llama 3.1-8B leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 34.0 (#249), Palm 2: 20.9 (#295)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1148 | 916 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1151 | 887 |
| LMArena French | 1177 | — |
| LMArena German | 1144 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1061 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1053 | — |
| LMArena Russian | 1158 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1169 | — |
Instruction Following Llama 3.1-8B leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 58.9 (#258), Palm 2: 51.0 (#296)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1159 | 1010 |
| IFEval | 74.3% | — |
Long Context Llama 3.1-8B leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 35.8 (#238), Palm 2: 30.8 (#285)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1182 | 1010 |
Writing & Preference Llama 3.1-8B leads
Llama 3.1-8B: 29.7 (#290), Palm 2: 25.6 (#304)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-8B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1187 | 1027 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1154 | 991 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1172 | 994 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | 713 | — |
| WildBench | 68.7% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3.1-8B better than Palm 2?
Palm 2 is the stronger model overall, scoring 30.0 to 23.0 on the Noometry Index.
Is Llama 3.1-8B or Palm 2 better for coding?
Palm 2 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 29.0 versus 20.2 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3.1-8B and Palm 2 share?
10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3.1-8B has 43 scored results on Noometry and Palm 2 has 10.