Model comparison
Llama 3.1-405B vs Palm 2
Llama 3.1-405B and Palm 2 score almost the same on the Noometry Index (30.7 vs 30.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.
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- They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3.1-405B scores higher in 5 categories and Palm 2 in 2 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in multilingual, where Llama 3.1-405B leads 40.7 to 20.9.
- Llama 3.1-405B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | |
| Noometry Index | 30.7 | 30.0 |
| Released | 2024-07-23 | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 42 | 10 |
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Category by category
Coding Llama 3.1-405B leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 33.1 (#262), Palm 2: 29.0 (#311)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1291 | 994 |
| WeirdML | 21.4% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Llama 3.1-405B: 21.0 (#140), Palm 2: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| TheAgentCompany | 7.4% | — |
| Cybench | 7.5% | — |
Reasoning Palm 2 leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 16.8 (#300), Palm 2: 19.1 (#271)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1269 | 1005 |
| SimpleBench | 23% | — |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 45% | — |
| DTBench | 61.4% | — |
| BIG-Bench Hard | 82.9% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 128.75 | — |
| ForecastBench | 59.9 | — |
| HellaSwag | 89.2% | — |
| PIQA | 85.9% | — |
| WinoGrande | 89.2% | — |
Math Palm 2 leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 18.4 (#290), Palm 2: 30.8 (#231)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1281 | 1049 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 9.7% | — |
| Omni-MATH | 24.9% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 49.8% | — |
Knowledge Not comparable
Llama 3.1-405B: 30.4 (#227), Palm 2: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 50.9% | — |
| MMLU-Pro | 72.3% | — |
| Confabulations | 17.6% | — |
| GPQA (HELM) | 52.2% | — |
| LMArena Expert | 1243 | — |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 95.3% | — |
| MMLU | 84.5% | — |
| TriviaQA | 82.7% | — |
Multilingual Llama 3.1-405B leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 40.7 (#214), Palm 2: 20.9 (#295)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1248 | 916 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1242 | 887 |
| LMArena French | 1279 | — |
| LMArena German | 1252 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1208 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1184 | — |
| LMArena Russian | 1265 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1260 | — |
Instruction Following Llama 3.1-405B leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 65.9 (#214), Palm 2: 51.0 (#296)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1259 | 1010 |
| IFEval | 81.1% | — |
Long Context Llama 3.1-405B leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 38.4 (#197), Palm 2: 30.8 (#285)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1266 | 1010 |
Writing & Preference Llama 3.1-405B leads
Llama 3.1-405B: 38.9 (#251), Palm 2: 25.6 (#304)
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1-405B | Palm 2 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1284 | 1027 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1262 | 991 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1297 | 994 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | 870 | — |
| WildBench | 78.3% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3.1-405B better than Palm 2?
Llama 3.1-405B and Palm 2 score almost the same on the Noometry Index (30.7 vs 30.0), so choose on price, context window or the category you care about most.
Is Llama 3.1-405B or Palm 2 better for coding?
Llama 3.1-405B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 33.1 versus 29.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3.1-405B and Palm 2 share?
10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3.1-405B has 42 scored results on Noometry and Palm 2 has 10.