Model comparison
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) vs Qwen3.8 27B
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.5 to 45.3 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 25 shared benchmarks.
Summary
- They share 25 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) scores higher in 5 categories and Qwen3.8 27B in 4 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in reasoning, where Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) leads 52.2 to 31.5.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is NYT Connections (extended): 85.4% for Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) and 54.5% for Qwen3.8 27B.
- Qwen3.8 27B is cheaper at $0.99 / $1.49 per million input/output tokens, against $1.25 / $2.50 for Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning).
- Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) accepts more context: 1M tokens versus 262K.
- Qwen3.8 27B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | xAI | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 48.5 | 45.3 |
| Released | 2026-02-17 | 2026-08-14 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | 1M | 262K |
| Max output | 30K | 33K |
| Input $ / M tokens | $1.25 | $0.99 |
| Output $ / M tokens | $2.50 | $1.49 |
| Results tracked | 46 | 28 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 27B leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 41.8 (#104), Qwen3.8 27B: 50.3 (#42)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena WebDev | 1374 | 1592 |
| LMArena Coding | 1458 | 1487 |
| SciCode | — | 46.6% |
| WeirdML | 52.3% | — |
| ALE-Bench | 1,150 | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 34.3 (#43), Qwen3.8 27B: —
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Terminal-Bench | 57.3% | — |
| τ²-bench Banking | 18% | — |
| LMArena Search | 1189 | — |
| Vending-Bench 2 | 4,663 | — |
Reasoning Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 52.2 (#30), Qwen3.8 27B: 31.5 (#71)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| NYT Connections (extended) | 85.4% | 54.5% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1451 | 1459 |
| DTBench | 90.1% | 88% |
| LMCA | 38.7% | 41.4% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 152.01 | 149.38 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | 65.1% | — |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 75% | — |
| ARC-AGI-1 | 89.5% | — |
| CritPt | — | 5.4% |
| Chess Puzzles | 24% | — |
| Thematic Generalization | 63.8% | — |
| Surface Evolver Bench | — | 45% |
| ForecastBench | 61.4 | — |
Math Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 48.0 (#54), Qwen3.8 27B: 35.7 (#139)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| ProofBench | 14% | 16% |
| LMArena Math | 1455 | 1453 |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | 44.9% | — |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | 17.1% | — |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 92.2% | — |
Knowledge Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 52.8 (#54), Qwen3.8 27B: 40.9 (#105)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1440 | 1482 |
| GPQA Diamond | 89.3% | — |
| SimpleQA Verified | 30.2% | — |
Multimodal Qwen3.8 27B leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 33.2 (#88), Qwen3.8 27B: 40.5 (#36)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1263 | 1270 |
| Blueprint-Bench 2 | 0% | — |
| LMArena Document | 1416 | — |
Multilingual Too close to call
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 54.7 (#38), Qwen3.8 27B: 54.0 (#54)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1440 | 1431 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1481 | 1504 |
| LMArena French | 1477 | 1468 |
| LMArena German | 1463 | 1435 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1450 | 1392 |
| LMArena Korean | 1417 | 1389 |
| LMArena Russian | 1457 | 1421 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1442 | 1444 |
Instruction Following Too close to call
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 75.0 (#79), Qwen3.8 27B: 75.8 (#54)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1420 | 1436 |
Long Context Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) leads
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 45.4 (#33), Qwen3.8 27B: 44.3 (#66)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1436 | 1448 |
| CL-bench | 22.2% | — |
| CL-bench Life | 11.9% | — |
Writing & Preference Too close to call
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning): 65.9 (#42), Qwen3.8 27B: 65.9 (#41)
| Benchmark | Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1451 | 1441 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1439 | 1382 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | 1574 | 1671 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1456 | 1443 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) better than Qwen3.8 27B?
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.5 to 45.3 on the Noometry Index.
Which is cheaper, Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) or Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B is cheaper. It lists at $0.99 per million input tokens and $1.49 per million output tokens; Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) lists at $1.25 and $2.50.
Is Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) or Qwen3.8 27B better for coding?
Qwen3.8 27B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.3 versus 41.8 in the Noometry coding category.
Which has the bigger context window?
Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) does, with 1M tokens against 262K.
How many benchmarks do Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) and Qwen3.8 27B share?
25 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok 4.20 (Non-Reasoning) has 46 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 27B has 28.