Noometry

Model comparison

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Qwen2.5-Max

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 59.5 to 40.1 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 18 shared benchmarks.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Google

59.5

Rank #13 Confirmed

Qwen2.5-Max Alibaba (Qwen)

40.1

Rank #142 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 18 benchmarks with published results for both. Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher in 8 categories and Qwen2.5-Max in 0 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in knowledge, where Gemini 3.8 Flash leads 74.9 to 34.8.

Side by side

Gemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index59.540.1
Released2026-09-022025-01-25
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window1.05M—
Max output66K—
Input $ / M tokens$0.75—
Output $ / M tokens$3.75—
Results tracked4627

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Category by category

Coding Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 56.4 (#17), Qwen2.5-Max: 41.2 (#118)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Coding15121359
DeepSWE73.8%—
FrontierCode41.2%—
CursorBench39.6%—
LMArena WebDev1581—
FrontierSWE19.6%—
SciCode56.6%—
LiveBench Coding—64.4%
ALE-Bench1,270—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.3 (#22), Qwen2.5-Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
APEX-Agents64.3%—
GDP.pdf23.4%—
Vending-Bench 25,094—

Reasoning Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 64.7 (#13), Qwen2.5-Max: 24.6 (#144)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Hard Prompts15061360
Epoch Capabilities Index157.13132.54
NYT Connections (extended)97.4%—
CritPt18.3%—
Chess Puzzles61%—
LiveBench Reasoning—51.4%
Mystery Game Puzzles47%—
DTBench95.7%—
LiveBench Data Analysis—67.9%
LMCA52.9%—
Surface Evolver Bench76.9%—
LiveBench—62.3%

Math Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 65.2 (#22), Qwen2.5-Max: 34.3 (#162)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Math15281369
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)68.4%—
FrontierMath Tier 422%—
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202598.9%—
ProofBench48%—
LiveBench Math—58.4%

Knowledge Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 74.9 (#2), Qwen2.5-Max: 34.8 (#181)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Expert15291337
GPQA Diamond95.4%—
Humanity's Last Exam44.5%—
SimpleQA Verified69.7%—
Confabulations—21.8%

Multimodal Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.9 (#33), Qwen2.5-Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Vision1312—
Blueprint-Bench 238.6%—
Furniture Assembly31.7%—

Multilingual Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 57.9 (#5), Qwen2.5-Max: 48.3 (#140)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Non-English14861352
LMArena Chinese15471382
LMArena French15021396
LMArena German14701350
LMArena Japanese15051299
LMArena Korean14791304
LMArena Russian15071353
LMArena Spanish14921377

Instruction Following Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 78.2 (#11), Qwen2.5-Max: 71.5 (#147)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Instruction Following14891335
LiveBench Instruction Following—75.3%

Long Context Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 46.2 (#23), Qwen2.5-Max: 41.3 (#137)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Longer Query15061358

Writing & Preference Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 72.1 (#16), Qwen2.5-Max: 55.6 (#141)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen2.5-Max
LMArena Text14941367
LMArena Creative Writing14851339
LMArena Multi-Turn15031364
Short-Story Creative Writing—72.9%
EQ-Bench Creative Writing1748—
LiveBench Language—56.3%

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash better than Qwen2.5-Max?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is the stronger model overall, scoring 59.5 to 40.1 on the Noometry Index.

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash or Qwen2.5-Max better for coding?

Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher on coding benchmarks: 56.4 versus 41.2 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Gemini 3.8 Flash and Qwen2.5-Max share?

18 benchmarks have published results for both models. Gemini 3.8 Flash has 46 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5-Max has 27.

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