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Model comparison

Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Qwen-VL Max

Gemini 3.8 Flash has enough public results to be ranked (#13); Qwen-VL Max does not yet, so treat this comparison as directional.

Last verified . 1 shared benchmarks.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Google

59.5

Rank #13 Confirmed

Qwen-VL Max Alibaba (Qwen)

35.3

Unranked Sparse

Summary

  • They share 1 benchmark with published results for both. Gemini 3.8 Flash scores higher in 1 category and Qwen-VL Max in 0 categories; one gap is clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in multimodal, where Gemini 3.8 Flash leads 40.9 to 31.6.
  • Qwen-VL Max is cheaper at $0.80 / $3.20 per million input/output tokens, against $0.75 / $3.75 for Gemini 3.8 Flash.
  • Gemini 3.8 Flash accepts more context: 1.05M tokens versus 131K.

Side by side

Gemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
ProviderGoogleAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index59.535.3
Released2026-09-022024-01-18
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window1.05M131K
Max output66K8K
Input $ / M tokens$0.75$0.80
Output $ / M tokens$3.75$3.20
Results tracked463

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Category by category

Coding Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 56.4 (#17), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
DeepSWE73.8%—
FrontierCode41.2%—
CursorBench39.6%—
LMArena WebDev1581—
FrontierSWE19.6%—
SciCode56.6%—
LMArena Coding1512—
ALE-Bench1,270—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.3 (#22), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
APEX-Agents64.3%—
GDP.pdf23.4%—
Vending-Bench 25,094—

Reasoning Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 64.7 (#13), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
NYT Connections (extended)97.4%—
CritPt18.3%—
Chess Puzzles61%—
LMArena Hard Prompts1506—
Mystery Game Puzzles47%—
DTBench95.7%—
LMCA52.9%—
Surface Evolver Bench76.9%—
Epoch Capabilities Index157.13—

Math Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 65.2 (#22), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)68.4%—
FrontierMath Tier 422%—
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202598.9%—
ProofBench48%—
LMArena Math1528—

Knowledge Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 74.9 (#2), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
GPQA Diamond95.4%—
Humanity's Last Exam44.5%—
SimpleQA Verified69.7%—
LMArena Expert1529—

Multimodal Gemini 3.8 Flash leads

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 40.9 (#33), Qwen-VL Max: 31.6 (#97)

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
LMArena Vision13121212
Video-MME—51.3%
Blueprint-Bench 238.6%—
Furniture Assembly31.7%—
SpatialViz-Bench—32%

Multilingual Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 57.9 (#5), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
LMArena Non-English1486—
LMArena Chinese1547—
LMArena French1502—
LMArena German1470—
LMArena Japanese1505—
LMArena Korean1479—
LMArena Russian1507—
LMArena Spanish1492—

Instruction Following Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 78.2 (#11), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
LMArena Instruction Following1489—

Long Context Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 46.2 (#23), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
LMArena Longer Query1506—

Writing & Preference Not comparable

Gemini 3.8 Flash: 72.1 (#16), Qwen-VL Max: —

BenchmarkGemini 3.8 FlashQwen-VL Max
LMArena Text1494—
LMArena Creative Writing1485—
EQ-Bench Creative Writing1748—
LMArena Multi-Turn1503—

Frequently asked questions

Is Gemini 3.8 Flash better than Qwen-VL Max?

Gemini 3.8 Flash has enough public results to be ranked (#13); Qwen-VL Max does not yet, so treat this comparison as directional.

Which is cheaper, Gemini 3.8 Flash or Qwen-VL Max?

Qwen-VL Max is cheaper. It lists at $0.80 per million input tokens and $3.20 per million output tokens; Gemini 3.8 Flash lists at $0.75 and $3.75.

Which has the bigger context window?

Gemini 3.8 Flash does, with 1.05M tokens against 131K.

How many benchmarks do Gemini 3.8 Flash and Qwen-VL Max share?

1 benchmark has published results for both models. Gemini 3.8 Flash has 46 scored results on Noometry and Qwen-VL Max has 3.

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