# Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

> Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 32.6 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/phi-3-mini-128k-instruct-vs-tulu-3-70b
- Last updated: 2026-10-10
- Shared benchmarks: 11

## Summary

- They share 11 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct scores higher in 2 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 6 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads 45.8 to 27.3.

## Snapshot

| | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) |
| Noometry Index | 29.1 | 32.6 |
| Rank | 303 | 242 |
| Context | — | — |
| Input $/M | — | — |
| Output $/M | — | — |
| Weights | Open | Open |

## Coding

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 28.3 (#307)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 35.4 (#211)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1040 | 1236 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 29.6% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 40.6% | — |

## Reasoning

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 18.7 (#254)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 22.9 (#172)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1028 | 1220 |

## Math

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 29.2 (#220)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 13.3 (#297)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1089 | 1242 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 4.4% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 42.7% |

## Knowledge

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 26.3 (#251)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.1 (#257)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 46.3% |
| LMArena Expert | 984 | — |

## Multilingual

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 25.4 (#280)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 40.1 (#217)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1000 | 1236 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1016 | 1249 |
| LMArena Russian | 1004 | 1246 |
| LMArena French | 1038 | — |
| LMArena German | 1006 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 899 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 856 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1058 | — |

## Instruction Following

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 52.1 (#289)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 65.0 (#222)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1023 | 1233 |

## Long Context

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 30.3 (#284)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#217)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 996 | 1224 |

## Writing & Preference

- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 27.3 (#296)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.8 (#218)

| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1050 | 1256 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1024 | 1231 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 989 | 1252 |

## FAQ

### Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 32.6 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.

### Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 35.4 versus 28.3 in the Noometry coding category.

### How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

11 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct has 19 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.
