# Llama 3-70B vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

> Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.9 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/llama-3-70b-vs-qwen2-5-72b-instruct
- Last updated: 2026-10-12
- Shared benchmarks: 27

## Summary

- They share 27 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-70B scores higher in 1 category and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in multilingual, where Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads 41.0 to 33.6.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is MATH Level 5: 22.6% for Llama 3-70B and 63.2% for Qwen2.5 72B Instruct.

## Snapshot

| | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 28.8 | 31.9 |
| Rank | 323 | 267 |
| Context | — | 131K |
| Input $/M | — | $1.40 |
| Output $/M | — | $5.60 |
| Weights | Open | Open |

## Coding

- Llama 3-70B: 35.8 (#218)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 33.2 (#260)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 43.6% | 45.8% |
| LMArena Coding | 1206 | 1292 |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 54.5% | 55.9% |
| WeirdML | — | 16% |
| HumanEval+ | 72% | — |
| MBPP+ | 69% | — |

## Agentic & Tool Use

- Llama 3-70B: 21.1 (#139)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.1 (#133)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| TheAgentCompany | — | 5.7% |
| Cybench | 5% | — |
| BALROG | — | 16.2% |
| METR Time Horizons | — | 35.8% |

## Reasoning

- Llama 3-70B: 18.0 (#288)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.3 (#199)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1195 | 1271 |
| DTBench | 54.2% | 62.9% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 122.93 | 129 |
| ForecastBench | 57.1 | 57.5 |
| WinoGrande | 83.5% | 82.3% |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 35.1% | — |
| LMCA | — | 13.4% |
| BIG-Bench Hard | — | 79.8% |
| HellaSwag | — | 84.8% |
| PIQA | — | 82.6% |

## Math

- Llama 3-70B: 12.8 (#305)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 19.3 (#287)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 4.3% | 8.1% |
| LMArena Math | 1218 | 1283 |
| MATH Level 5 | 22.6% | 63.2% |
| Omni-MATH | — | 33% |

## Knowledge

- Llama 3-70B: 20.8 (#277)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 27.0 (#253)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 40.6% | 49.1% |
| LMArena Expert | 1149 | 1245 |
| MMLU | 79.3% | 85.3% |
| MMLU-Pro | — | 63.1% |
| Confabulations | — | 19.1% |
| GPQA (HELM) | — | 42.6% |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | — | 94.5% |
| TriviaQA | — | 71.9% |

## Multilingual

- Llama 3-70B: 33.6 (#251)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 41.0 (#213)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1142 | 1252 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1114 | 1272 |
| LMArena French | 1232 | 1280 |
| LMArena German | 1169 | 1234 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1017 | 1180 |
| LMArena Korean | 1017 | 1188 |
| LMArena Russian | 1159 | 1264 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1241 | 1256 |

## Instruction Following

- Llama 3-70B: 62.5 (#238)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 65.5 (#221)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1194 | 1254 |
| IFEval | — | 80.6% |

## Long Context

- Llama 3-70B: 35.6 (#240)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 38.9 (#188)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1174 | 1282 |

## Writing & Preference

- Llama 3-70B: 42.8 (#231)
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 46.7 (#215)

| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1221 | 1269 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1210 | 1221 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1223 | 1272 |
| WildBench | — | 80.2% |

## FAQ

### Is Llama 3-70B better than Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?

Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.9 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.

### Is Llama 3-70B or Qwen2.5 72B Instruct better for coding?

Llama 3-70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 35.8 versus 33.2 in the Noometry coding category.

### How many benchmarks do Llama 3-70B and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct share?

27 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-70B has 31 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has 43.