# Grok 4.7 vs Qwen3.8 Max

> Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.0 to 46.6 on the Noometry Index.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/grok-4-7-vs-qwen3-8-max
- Last updated: 2026-10-10
- Shared benchmarks: 19

## Summary

- They share 19 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok 4.7 scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 7 categories; 9 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.1 to 41.1.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is ProofBench: 34% for Grok 4.7 and 58% for Qwen3.8 Max.
- Both cost about the same: $2 input and $6 output per million tokens.
- Qwen3.8 Max accepts more context: 1M tokens versus 500K.

## Snapshot

| | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | xAI | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 46.6 | 56.0 |
| Rank | 56 | 21 |
| Context | 500K | 1M |
| Input $/M | $2 | $2 |
| Output $/M | $6 | $6 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Proprietary |

## Coding

- Grok 4.7: 55.0 (#23)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 52.3 (#30)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena WebDev | 1636 | 1671 |
| FrontierSWE | 29.5% | 15.8% |
| SciCode | 57.4% | 52.9% |
| LMArena Coding | 1423 | 1499 |
| DeepSWE | — | 57.5% |
| CursorBench | 46.3% | — |

## Agentic & Tool Use

- Grok 4.7: —
- Qwen3.8 Max: 42.6 (#17)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| τ²-bench Banking | — | 55.1% |
| GDP.pdf | — | 23.2% |

## Reasoning

- Grok 4.7: 40.1 (#49)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 53.4 (#26)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| NYT Connections (extended) | 76.8% | 88.3% |
| CritPt | 17.7% | 20% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1409 | 1493 |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 40% |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | — | 38% |
| DTBench | — | 92% |
| LMCA | — | 46.2% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 156.69 |

## Math

- Grok 4.7: 41.1 (#73)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 73.1 (#15)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| ProofBench | 34% | 58% |
| LMArena Math | 1393 | 1498 |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | — | 74.7% |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | — | 46.3% |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 100% |

## Knowledge

- Grok 4.7: 38.7 (#130)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#25)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1413 | 1504 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 92.7% |
| SimpleQA Verified | — | 47.3% |

## Multimodal

- Grok 4.7: 28.8 (#107)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 36.9 (#70)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| Furniture Assembly | 20.8% | 20% |
| LMArena Vision | — | 1314 |

## Multilingual

- Grok 4.7: 51.2 (#108)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 56.6 (#18)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1392 | 1468 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1476 | 1537 |
| LMArena Russian | 1396 | 1478 |
| LMArena French | — | 1502 |
| LMArena German | — | 1489 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1466 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1467 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1495 |

## Instruction Following

- Grok 4.7: 74.3 (#98)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 77.7 (#19)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1406 | 1478 |

## Long Context

- Grok 4.7: 43.2 (#97)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 45.5 (#30)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1416 | 1486 |

## Writing & Preference

- Grok 4.7: 70.1 (#23)
- Qwen3.8 Max: 67.0 (#31)

| Benchmark | Grok 4.7 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1397 | 1480 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1391 | 1478 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1389 | 1487 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | 2007 | — |

## FAQ

### Is Grok 4.7 better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.0 to 46.6 on the Noometry Index.

### Which is cheaper, Grok 4.7 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is cheaper. It lists at $2 per million input tokens and $6 per million output tokens; Grok 4.7 lists at $2 and $6.

### Is Grok 4.7 or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Grok 4.7 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 55.0 versus 52.3 in the Noometry coding category.

### Which has the bigger context window?

Qwen3.8 Max does, with 1M tokens against 500K.

### How many benchmarks do Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max share?

19 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok 4.7 has 21 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 38.