# DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B

> Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has enough public results to be ranked (#242); DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) does not yet, so treat this comparison as directional.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/deepseek-v2-vs-tulu-3-70b
- Last updated: 2026-10-10
- Shared benchmarks: 0

## Summary

- The widest gap is in coding, where DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) leads 39.8 to 35.4.

## Snapshot

| | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | DeepSeek | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) |
| Noometry Index | 39.7 | 32.6 |
| Rank | — | 242 |
| Context | — | — |
| Input $/M | — | — |
| Output $/M | — | — |
| Weights | Open | Open |

## Coding

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): 39.8 (#141)
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 35.4 (#211)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 48.9% | — |
| LMArena Coding | — | 1236 |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 59.4% | — |

## Reasoning

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 22.9 (#172)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | — | 1220 |
| BIG-Bench Hard | 78.8% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 124.78 | — |
| HellaSwag | 87.1% | — |
| PIQA | 83.9% | — |
| WinoGrande | 86.3% | — |

## Math

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 13.3 (#297)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 4.4% |
| LMArena Math | — | 1242 |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 42.7% |

## Knowledge

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.1 (#257)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 46.3% |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 92.2% | — |
| MMLU | 78.4% | — |
| TriviaQA | 80% | — |

## Multilingual

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 40.1 (#217)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | — | 1236 |
| LMArena Chinese | — | 1249 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1246 |

## Instruction Following

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 65.0 (#222)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | — | 1233 |

## Long Context

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#217)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | — | 1224 |

## Writing & Preference

- DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024): —
- Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.8 (#218)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | — | 1256 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | — | 1231 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | — | 1252 |

## FAQ

### Is DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?

Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has enough public results to be ranked (#242); DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) does not yet, so treat this comparison as directional.

### Is DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?

DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) scores higher on coding benchmarks: 39.8 versus 35.4 in the Noometry coding category.

### How many benchmarks do DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?

0 benchmarks have published results for both models. DeepSeek-V2 (MoE-236B, May 2024) has 10 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.