# DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) vs Qwen Max

> DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) is the stronger model overall, scoring 37.0 to 34.4 on the Noometry Index.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/deepseek-v2-5-vs-qwen-max
- Last updated: 2026-10-10
- Shared benchmarks: 18

## Summary

- They share 18 benchmarks with published results for both. DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) scores higher in 8 categories and Qwen Max in 0 categories; 4 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) leads 33.3 to 21.0.
- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

## Snapshot

| | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | DeepSeek | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 37.0 | 34.4 |
| Rank | 197 | 226 |
| Context | — | 33K |
| Input $/M | — | $1.60 |
| Output $/M | — | $6.40 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |

## Coding

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 31.3 (#274)
- Qwen Max: 30.3 (#288)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| Aider Polyglot | 17.8% | 21.8% |
| LMArena Coding | 1310 | 1288 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 48.6% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 53.2% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 83.5% | — |
| MBPP+ | 74.1% | — |

## Reasoning

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 24.5 (#145)
- Qwen Max: 24.1 (#154)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1289 | 1270 |

## Math

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 33.3 (#177)
- Qwen Max: 21.0 (#272)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1289 | 1275 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 16.1% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 67.2% |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | — | 1% |

## Knowledge

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 34.2 (#190)
- Qwen Max: 30.3 (#222)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1266 | 1248 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 56.1% |

## Multilingual

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 42.7 (#188)
- Qwen Max: 42.0 (#197)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1273 | 1263 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1317 | 1254 |
| LMArena French | 1288 | 1329 |
| LMArena German | 1258 | 1254 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1228 | 1205 |
| LMArena Korean | 1209 | 1141 |
| LMArena Russian | 1289 | 1274 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1248 | 1290 |

## Instruction Following

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 67.7 (#189)
- Qwen Max: 66.7 (#203)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1280 | 1262 |

## Long Context

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 39.5 (#169)
- Qwen Max: 39.4 (#175)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1301 | 1289 |
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 66.7% |

## Writing & Preference

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 50.0 (#182)
- Qwen Max: 48.0 (#200)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Qwen Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1294 | 1282 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1285 | 1248 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1297 | 1277 |

## FAQ

### Is DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) better than Qwen Max?

DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) is the stronger model overall, scoring 37.0 to 34.4 on the Noometry Index.

### Is DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) or Qwen Max better for coding?

They score almost the same on coding (31.3 vs 30.3); test both on your own repository before choosing.

### How many benchmarks do DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) and Qwen Max share?

18 benchmarks have published results for both models. DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) has 22 scored results on Noometry and Qwen Max has 23.