# DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) vs Grok 4

> Grok 4 is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.1 to 37.6 on the Noometry Index.

- Canonical page: https://noometry.com/compare/deepseek-v2-5-vs-grok-4
- Last updated: 2026-10-10
- Shared benchmarks: 18

## Summary

- They share 18 benchmarks with published results for both. DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) scores higher in 0 categories and Grok 4 in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in long context, where Grok 4 leads 63.1 to 39.5.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is Aider Polyglot: 17.8% for DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) and 79.6% for Grok 4.
- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

## Snapshot

| | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | DeepSeek | xAI |
| Noometry Index | 37.6 | 48.1 |
| Rank | 200 | 56 |
| Context | — | — |
| Input $/M | — | — |
| Output $/M | — | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |

## Coding

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 31.7 (#281)
- Grok 4: 50.3 (#46)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| Aider Polyglot | 17.8% | 79.6% |
| LMArena Coding | 1309 | 1408 |
| WeirdML | — | 45.7% |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 48.6% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 53.2% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 83.5% | — |
| MBPP+ | 74.1% | — |

## Agentic & Tool Use

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): —
- Grok 4: 32.3 (#68)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| Terminal-Bench | — | 27.2% |
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard | — | 63% |
| GDPval | — | 21.1% |
| Cybench | — | 43% |
| DeepResearch Bench | — | 47.3% |
| BALROG | — | 43.6% |
| LMArena Search | — | 1142 |
| METR Time Horizons | — | 66.6% |

## Reasoning

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 25.6 (#145)
- Grok 4: 36.7 (#65)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1289 | 1409 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | — | 16% |
| SimpleBench | — | 60.5% |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | — | 73.6% |
| ARC-AGI-1 | — | 66.7% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 28% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 146.44 |
| ForecastBench | — | 60.9 |

## Math

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 35.9 (#177)
- Grok 4: 48.4 (#64)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1288 | 1422 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 84% |
| Omni-MATH | — | 60.3% |
| FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set) | — | 19.7% |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 (v1) | — | 2.1% |

## Knowledge

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 34.8 (#193)
- Grok 4: 53.8 (#55)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1266 | 1415 |
| GPQA Diamond | — | 87% |
| MMLU-Pro | — | 85.1% |
| Confabulations | — | 12.4% |
| GPQA (HELM) | — | 72.7% |

## Multimodal

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): —
- Grok 4: 33.7 (#94)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1210 |
| GeoBench | — | 45% |

## Multilingual

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 42.5 (#193)
- Grok 4: 51.8 (#103)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1273 | 1403 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1318 | 1427 |
| LMArena French | 1289 | 1418 |
| LMArena German | 1258 | 1429 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1228 | 1394 |
| LMArena Korean | 1209 | 1377 |
| LMArena Russian | 1289 | 1410 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1248 | 1420 |

## Instruction Following

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 67.5 (#194)
- Grok 4: 79.2 (#5)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1280 | 1387 |
| IFEval | — | 94.9% |

## Long Context

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 39.5 (#174)
- Grok 4: 63.1 (#4)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1301 | 1409 |
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 94.4% |

## Writing & Preference

- DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024): 49.8 (#187)
- Grok 4: 58.5 (#116)

| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) | Grok 4 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1294 | 1411 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1285 | 1397 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1297 | 1416 |
| Short-Story Creative Writing | — | 76.9% |
| WildBench | — | 79.7% |

## FAQ

### Is DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) better than Grok 4?

Grok 4 is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.1 to 37.6 on the Noometry Index.

### Is DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) or Grok 4 better for coding?

Grok 4 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.3 versus 31.7 in the Noometry coding category.

### How many benchmarks do DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) and Grok 4 share?

18 benchmarks have published results for both models. DeepSeek-V2.5 (Sep 2024) has 22 scored results on Noometry and Grok 4 has 48.