Model comparison
Qwen3.8 Max vs Wizardlm 70b
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 33.0 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 12 shared benchmarks.
Alibaba (Qwen)
MicrosoftSummary
- They share 12 benchmarks with published results for both. Qwen3.8 Max scores higher in 7 categories and Wizardlm 70b in 0 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 32.2.
- Wizardlm 70b has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | Microsoft |
| Noometry Index | 56.8 | 33.0 |
| Released | 2026-08-02 | — |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | 1M | — |
| Max output | 131K | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | $2 | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | $6 | — |
| Results tracked | 39 | 12 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29), Wizardlm 70b: 31.4 (#285)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1502 | 1081 |
| DeepSWE | 57.5% | — |
| LMArena WebDev | 1674 | — |
| FrontierSWE | 17.8% | — |
| SciCode | 53.2% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14), Wizardlm 70b: —
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | 63.3% | — |
| τ²-bench Banking | 55.1% | — |
| GDP.pdf | 23.2% | — |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26), Wizardlm 70b: 20.7 (#234)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1496 | 1079 |
| NYT Connections (extended) | 88.3% | — |
| CritPt | 20% | — |
| Chess Puzzles | 40% | — |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | 38% | — |
| DTBench | 92% | — |
| LMCA | 46.2% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 156.41 | — |
Math Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20), Wizardlm 70b: 32.2 (#218)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1499 | 1116 |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | 74.7% | — |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | 46.3% | — |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 100% | — |
| ProofBench | 58% | — |
Knowledge Not comparable
Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27), Wizardlm 70b: —
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 92.7% | — |
| SimpleQA Verified | 47.3% | — |
| LMArena Expert | 1507 | — |
Multimodal Not comparable
Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75), Wizardlm 70b: —
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1314 | — |
| Furniture Assembly | 20% | — |
Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18), Wizardlm 70b: 29.6 (#265)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1472 | 1078 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1538 | 1052 |
| LMArena German | 1483 | 1083 |
| LMArena Russian | 1481 | 1155 |
| LMArena French | 1503 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1467 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1461 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1492 | — |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17), Wizardlm 70b: 56.3 (#273)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1479 | 1093 |
Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31), Wizardlm 70b: 33.3 (#263)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1489 | 1097 |
Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads
Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30), Wizardlm 70b: 34.8 (#269)
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8 Max | Wizardlm 70b |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1483 | 1120 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1479 | 1149 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1489 | 1108 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Qwen3.8 Max better than Wizardlm 70b?
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 33.0 on the Noometry Index.
Is Qwen3.8 Max or Wizardlm 70b better for coding?
Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 31.4 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Qwen3.8 Max and Wizardlm 70b share?
12 benchmarks have published results for both models. Qwen3.8 Max has 39 scored results on Noometry and Wizardlm 70b has 12.