Model comparison
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct vs Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 29.3 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 17 shared benchmarks.
Summary
- They share 17 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 27B in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen3.8 27B leads 65.8 to 31.1.
Side by side
| Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 29.3 | 46.0 |
| Released | 2024-04-23 | 2026-08-14 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | 262K |
| Max output | — | 33K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $0.04 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $2.30 |
| Results tracked | 32 | 31 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 27.9 (#318), Qwen3.8 27B: 50.5 (#44)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1101 | 1482 |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1593 |
| SciCode | — | 46.6% |
| LiveBench Coding | 20.3% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 32.9 (#57)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | — | 47.5% |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 14.8 (#323), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.0 (#54)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1100 | 1460 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | — | 42.4% |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 54.5% |
| ARC-AGI-1 | — | 87.5% |
| CritPt | — | 5.4% |
| LiveBench Reasoning | 15.9% | — |
| DTBench | — | 88% |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | 30.3% | — |
| LMCA | — | 41.4% |
| Surface Evolver Bench | — | 45% |
| Adversarial NLI | 58.1% | — |
| BIG-Bench Hard | 79.1% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 149.38 |
| HellaSwag | 77% | — |
| LiveBench | 24% | — |
| WinoGrande | 81.5% | — |
Math Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 27.6 (#248), Qwen3.8 27B: 37.1 (#161)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1151 | 1456 |
| ProofBench | — | 16% |
| LiveBench Math | 17.6% | — |
Knowledge Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 29.1 (#240), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.6 (#109)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1067 | 1482 |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 90.7% | — |
| MMLU | 75.7% | — |
| OpenBookQA | 88% | — |
| TriviaQA | 58.1% | — |
Multimodal Not comparable
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 41.3 (#37)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1271 |
Multilingual Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 28.5 (#272), Qwen3.8 27B: 53.7 (#60)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1058 | 1430 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1061 | 1504 |
| LMArena French | 1135 | 1465 |
| LMArena German | 1080 | 1438 |
| LMArena Japanese | 966 | 1384 |
| LMArena Korean | 894 | 1393 |
| LMArena Russian | 1111 | 1415 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1111 | 1448 |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 51.9 (#292), Qwen3.8 27B: 75.8 (#53)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1087 | 1439 |
| LiveBench Instruction Following | 47.2% | — |
Long Context Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 33.0 (#267), Qwen3.8 27B: 44.3 (#70)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1088 | 1450 |
Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 27B leads
Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 31.1 (#284), Qwen3.8 27B: 65.8 (#43)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1110 | 1441 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1083 | 1384 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1068 | 1441 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | — | 1671 |
| LiveBench Language | 12.9% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct better than Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 29.3 on the Noometry Index.
Is Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct or Qwen3.8 27B better for coding?
Qwen3.8 27B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.5 versus 27.9 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct and Qwen3.8 27B share?
17 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct has 32 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 27B has 31.