Model comparison

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct vs Qwen3.8 27B

Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 29.3 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 17 shared benchmarks.

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct Microsoft

29.3

Rank #314 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 27B Alibaba (Qwen)

46.0

Rank #68 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 17 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 27B in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen3.8 27B leads 65.8 to 31.1.

Side by side

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct and Qwen3.8 27B specifications
Phi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
ProviderMicrosoftAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index29.346.0
Released2024-04-232026-08-14
WeightsOpenOpen
Context window—262K
Max output—33K
Input $ / M tokens—$0.04
Output $ / M tokens—$2.30
Results tracked3231

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 27.9 (#318), Qwen3.8 27B: 50.5 (#44)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Coding11011482
LMArena WebDev—1593
SciCode—46.6%
LiveBench Coding20.3%—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 32.9 (#57)

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
APEX-Agents—47.5%

Reasoning Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 14.8 (#323), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.0 (#54)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Hard Prompts11001460
ARC-AGI-2—42.4%
NYT Connections (extended)—54.5%
ARC-AGI-1—87.5%
CritPt—5.4%
LiveBench Reasoning15.9%—
DTBench—88%
LiveBench Data Analysis30.3%—
LMCA—41.4%
Surface Evolver Bench—45%
Adversarial NLI58.1%—
BIG-Bench Hard79.1%—
Epoch Capabilities Index—149.38
HellaSwag77%—
LiveBench24%—
WinoGrande81.5%—

Math Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 27.6 (#248), Qwen3.8 27B: 37.1 (#161)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Math11511456
ProofBench—16%
LiveBench Math17.6%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 29.1 (#240), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.6 (#109)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Expert10671482
ARC (AI2) Challenge90.7%—
MMLU75.7%—
OpenBookQA88%—
TriviaQA58.1%—

Multimodal Not comparable

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 41.3 (#37)

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision—1271

Multilingual Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 28.5 (#272), Qwen3.8 27B: 53.7 (#60)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Non-English10581430
LMArena Chinese10611504
LMArena French11351465
LMArena German10801438
LMArena Japanese9661384
LMArena Korean8941393
LMArena Russian11111415
LMArena Spanish11111448

Instruction Following Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 51.9 (#292), Qwen3.8 27B: 75.8 (#53)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Instruction Following10871439
LiveBench Instruction Following47.2%—

Long Context Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 33.0 (#267), Qwen3.8 27B: 44.3 (#70)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Longer Query10881450

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 27B leads

Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct: 31.1 (#284), Qwen3.8 27B: 65.8 (#43)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkPhi 3 Small 8k InstructQwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text11101441
LMArena Creative Writing10831384
LMArena Multi-Turn10681441
EQ-Bench Creative Writing—1671
LiveBench Language12.9%—

Frequently asked questions

Is Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct better than Qwen3.8 27B?

Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 29.3 on the Noometry Index.

Is Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct or Qwen3.8 27B better for coding?

Qwen3.8 27B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.5 versus 27.9 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct and Qwen3.8 27B share?

17 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Small 8k Instruct has 32 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 27B has 31.

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