Model comparison
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct vs Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B
Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 27.9 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 11 shared benchmarks.
Summary
- They share 11 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct scores higher in 2 categories and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B in 6 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads 45.6 to 27.6.
Side by side
| Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Allen Institute for AI (Ai2) |
| Noometry Index | 27.9 | 33.0 |
| Released | 2024-04-23 | 2024-11-21 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 35 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 26.6 (#323), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 36.0 (#214)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1093 | 1235 |
| LiveBench Coding | 15.5% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 59.1% | — |
| MBPP+ | 54.2% | — |
Reasoning Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 14.1 (#328), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 23.9 (#169)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1072 | 1220 |
| Chess Puzzles | 0% | — |
| LiveBench Reasoning | 26.8% | — |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | 34.7% | — |
| Adversarial NLI | 52.8% | — |
| BIG-Bench Hard | 71.7% | — |
| HellaSwag | 76.7% | — |
| LiveBench | 22.4% | — |
| WinoGrande | 70.8% | — |
Math Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 26.6 (#257), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 14.2 (#303)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1111 | 1242 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 4.4% |
| LiveBench Math | 15.7% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 42.7% |
Knowledge Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 28.5 (#246), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 25.0 (#264)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 46.3% |
| LMArena Expert | 1045 | — |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | 84.9% | — |
| MMLU | 68.8% | — |
| OpenBookQA | 88% | — |
| TriviaQA | 64% | — |
Multilingual Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 26.3 (#280), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 39.9 (#222)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1021 | 1236 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1021 | 1249 |
| LMArena Russian | 1022 | 1246 |
| LMArena French | 1076 | — |
| LMArena German | 1044 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 935 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 905 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1085 | — |
Instruction Following Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 47.7 (#303), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 64.8 (#227)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1053 | 1233 |
| LiveBench Instruction Following | 39.1% | — |
Long Context Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 31.7 (#276), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 37.1 (#222)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1044 | 1224 |
Writing & Preference Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B leads
Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct: 27.6 (#300), Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B: 45.6 (#223)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct | Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1073 | 1256 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1037 | 1231 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1018 | 1252 |
| LiveBench Language | 9.2% | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct better than Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B?
Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.0 to 27.9 on the Noometry Index.
Is Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct or Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B better for coding?
Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 36.0 versus 26.6 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B share?
11 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Mini 4k Instruct has 35 scored results on Noometry and Tulu 3 (Tülu 3) 70B has 14.