Model comparison
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct vs Qwen2.5-Max
Qwen2.5-Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.1 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 17 shared benchmarks.
Microsoft
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 17 benchmarks with published results for both. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen2.5-Max in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in writing & preference, where Qwen2.5-Max leads 55.6 to 27.3.
- Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Microsoft | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 29.1 | 40.1 |
| Released | 2024-04-23 | 2025-01-25 |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 19 | 27 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 28.3 (#307), Qwen2.5-Max: 41.2 (#118)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1040 | 1359 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 29.6% | — |
| LiveBench Coding | — | 64.4% |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 40.6% | — |
Reasoning Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 18.7 (#254), Qwen2.5-Max: 24.6 (#144)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1028 | 1360 |
| LiveBench Reasoning | — | 51.4% |
| LiveBench Data Analysis | — | 67.9% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 132.54 |
| LiveBench | — | 62.3% |
Math Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 29.2 (#220), Qwen2.5-Max: 34.3 (#162)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1089 | 1369 |
| LiveBench Math | — | 58.4% |
Knowledge Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 26.3 (#251), Qwen2.5-Max: 34.8 (#181)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 984 | 1337 |
| Confabulations | — | 21.8% |
Multilingual Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 25.4 (#280), Qwen2.5-Max: 48.3 (#140)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1000 | 1352 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1016 | 1382 |
| LMArena French | 1038 | 1396 |
| LMArena German | 1006 | 1350 |
| LMArena Japanese | 899 | 1299 |
| LMArena Korean | 856 | 1304 |
| LMArena Russian | 1004 | 1353 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1058 | 1377 |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 52.1 (#289), Qwen2.5-Max: 71.5 (#147)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1023 | 1335 |
| LiveBench Instruction Following | — | 75.3% |
Long Context Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 30.3 (#284), Qwen2.5-Max: 41.3 (#137)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 996 | 1358 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5-Max leads
Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct: 27.3 (#296), Qwen2.5-Max: 55.6 (#141)
| Benchmark | Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct | Qwen2.5-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1050 | 1367 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1024 | 1339 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 989 | 1364 |
| Short-Story Creative Writing | — | 72.9% |
| LiveBench Language | — | 56.3% |
Frequently asked questions
Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct better than Qwen2.5-Max?
Qwen2.5-Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.1 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.
Is Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct or Qwen2.5-Max better for coding?
Qwen2.5-Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 41.2 versus 28.3 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct and Qwen2.5-Max share?
17 benchmarks have published results for both models. Phi 3 Mini 128k Instruct has 19 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5-Max has 27.