Model comparison
Palm 2 vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 10 shared benchmarks.
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Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 10 benchmarks with published results for both. Palm 2 scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 7 categories; 7 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 30.8.
Side by side
| Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | |
| Noometry Index | 30.0 | 56.8 |
| Released | — | 2026-08-02 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | 1M |
| Max output | — | 131K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $2 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $6 |
| Results tracked | 10 | 39 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 29.0 (#311), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 994 | 1502 |
| DeepSWE | — | 57.5% |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1674 |
| FrontierSWE | — | 17.8% |
| SciCode | — | 53.2% |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | — | 63.3% |
| τ²-bench Banking | — | 55.1% |
| GDP.pdf | — | 23.2% |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 19.1 (#271), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1005 | 1496 |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 88.3% |
| CritPt | — | 20% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 40% |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | — | 38% |
| DTBench | — | 92% |
| LMCA | — | 46.2% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 156.41 |
Math Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 30.8 (#231), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1049 | 1499 |
| FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3) | — | 74.7% |
| FrontierMath Tier 4 | — | 46.3% |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | — | 100% |
| ProofBench | — | 58% |
Knowledge Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | — | 92.7% |
| SimpleQA Verified | — | 47.3% |
| LMArena Expert | — | 1507 |
Multimodal Not comparable
Palm 2: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1314 |
| Furniture Assembly | — | 20% |
Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 20.9 (#295), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 916 | 1472 |
| LMArena Chinese | 887 | 1538 |
| LMArena French | — | 1503 |
| LMArena German | — | 1483 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1467 |
| LMArena Korean | — | 1461 |
| LMArena Russian | — | 1481 |
| LMArena Spanish | — | 1492 |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 51.0 (#296), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1010 | 1479 |
Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 30.8 (#285), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1010 | 1489 |
Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads
Palm 2: 25.6 (#304), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)
| Benchmark | Palm 2 | Qwen3.8 Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1027 | 1483 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 991 | 1479 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 994 | 1489 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Palm 2 better than Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 30.0 on the Noometry Index.
Is Palm 2 or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?
Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 29.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Palm 2 and Qwen3.8 Max share?
10 benchmarks have published results for both models. Palm 2 has 10 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.