Noometry

Model comparison

o1-mini vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 34.0 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 20 shared benchmarks.

o1-mini OpenAI

34.0

Rank #235 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 20 benchmarks with published results for both. o1-mini scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 9 categories; 9 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in reasoning, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 54.4 to 8.8.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 46.9% for o1-mini and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.

Side by side

o1-miniQwen3.8 Max
ProviderOpenAIAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index34.056.8
Released2024-09-122026-08-02
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window—1M
Max output—131K
Input $ / M tokens—$2
Output $ / M tokens—$6
Results tracked3939

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 35.5 (#224), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Coding13621502
DeepSWE—57.5%
Aider Polyglot32.9%—
LMArena WebDev—1674
FrontierSWE—17.8%
SciCode—53.2%
WeirdML36.3%—
LiveBench Coding48%—
HumanEval+89%—
MBPP+78.8%—

Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 24.6 (#118), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents—63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
Cybench10%—
GDP.pdf—23.2%

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 8.8 (#346), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Hard Prompts13331496
Epoch Capabilities Index135.82156.41
ARC-AGI-20.8%—
SimpleBench18.1%—
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
ARC-AGI-114%—
CritPt—20%
Chess Puzzles—40%
LiveBench Reasoning72.3%—
Mystery Game Puzzles—38%
DTBench—92%
LiveBench Data Analysis57.9%—
LMCA—46.2%
LiveBench57.8%—

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 35.4 (#186), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202546.9%100%
LMArena Math13581499
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
ProofBench—58%
LiveBench Math62%—
MATH Level 589.2%—
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)1.7%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 34.9 (#192), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond62.4%92.7%
LMArena Expert13161507
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%
Confabulations18.6%—

Multimodal Not comparable

o1-mini: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision—1314
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 43.6 (#182), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English12891472
LMArena Chinese13141538
LMArena French12931503
LMArena German12781483
LMArena Japanese12451467
LMArena Korean12231461
LMArena Russian12831481
LMArena Spanish13031492

Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 66.7 (#206), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following13041479
LiveBench Instruction Following65.4%—

Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 40.1 (#161), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query13201489

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads

o1-mini: 48.4 (#202), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

Benchmarko1-miniQwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text13171483
LMArena Creative Writing12441479
LMArena Multi-Turn13141489
Short-Story Creative Writing64.9%—
LiveBench Language40.9%—

Frequently asked questions

Is o1-mini better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 34.0 on the Noometry Index.

Is o1-mini or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 35.5 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do o1-mini and Qwen3.8 Max share?

20 benchmarks have published results for both models. o1-mini has 39 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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