Model comparison
Nemotron 3 Ultra vs Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 42.5 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 24 shared benchmarks.
Summary
- They share 24 benchmarks with published results for both. Nemotron 3 Ultra scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen3.8 27B in 7 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in coding, where Qwen3.8 27B leads 50.5 to 38.1.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is APEX-Agents: 22.7% for Nemotron 3 Ultra and 47.5% for Qwen3.8 27B.
- Nemotron 3 Ultra is cheaper at $0.50 / $2.20 per million input/output tokens, against $0.99 / $1.49 for Qwen3.8 27B.
Side by side
| Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | NVIDIA | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 42.5 | 46.0 |
| Released | 2026-06-04 | 2026-08-14 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | 262K | 262K |
| Max output | 128K | 33K |
| Input $ / M tokens | $0.50 | $0.99 |
| Output $ / M tokens | $2.20 | $1.49 |
| Results tracked | 30 | 31 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen3.8 27B leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 38.1 (#182), Qwen3.8 27B: 50.5 (#44)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| SciCode | 40.3% | 46.6% |
| LMArena Coding | 1468 | 1482 |
| FrontierCode | 13.6% | — |
| LMArena WebDev | — | 1593 |
| WeirdML | 43.5% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3.8 27B leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 23.4 (#126), Qwen3.8 27B: 32.9 (#57)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| APEX-Agents | 22.7% | 47.5% |
Reasoning Qwen3.8 27B leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 31.0 (#82), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.0 (#54)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| CritPt | 3.1% | 5.4% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1452 | 1460 |
| DTBench | 90.1% | 88% |
| LMCA | 36.9% | 41.4% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 146.17 | 149.38 |
| ARC-AGI-2 | — | 42.4% |
| NYT Connections (extended) | — | 54.5% |
| ARC-AGI-1 | — | 87.5% |
| Chess Puzzles | 12% | — |
| Mystery Game Puzzles | 20% | — |
| Surface Evolver Bench | — | 45% |
Math Qwen3.8 27B leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 35.3 (#187), Qwen3.8 27B: 37.1 (#161)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| ProofBench | 2% | 16% |
| LMArena Math | 1457 | 1456 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 86.7% | — |
Knowledge Nemotron 3 Ultra leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 52.5 (#61), Qwen3.8 27B: 41.6 (#109)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1472 | 1482 |
| GPQA Diamond | 85.4% | — |
Multimodal Not comparable
Nemotron 3 Ultra: —, Qwen3.8 27B: 41.3 (#37)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | — | 1271 |
Multilingual Too close to call
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 53.5 (#64), Qwen3.8 27B: 53.7 (#60)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1427 | 1430 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1497 | 1504 |
| LMArena French | 1472 | 1465 |
| LMArena German | 1471 | 1438 |
| LMArena Korean | 1386 | 1393 |
| LMArena Russian | 1417 | 1415 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1454 | 1448 |
| LMArena Japanese | — | 1384 |
Instruction Following Qwen3.8 27B leads
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 74.7 (#88), Qwen3.8 27B: 75.8 (#53)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1418 | 1439 |
Long Context Too close to call
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 43.9 (#81), Qwen3.8 27B: 44.3 (#70)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1437 | 1450 |
Writing & Preference Too close to call
Nemotron 3 Ultra: 66.3 (#36), Qwen3.8 27B: 65.8 (#43)
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1445 | 1441 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1398 | 1384 |
| EQ-Bench Creative Writing | 1692 | 1671 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1411 | 1441 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Nemotron 3 Ultra better than Qwen3.8 27B?
Qwen3.8 27B is the stronger model overall, scoring 46.0 to 42.5 on the Noometry Index.
Which is cheaper, Nemotron 3 Ultra or Qwen3.8 27B?
Nemotron 3 Ultra is cheaper. It lists at $0.50 per million input tokens and $2.20 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 27B lists at $0.99 and $1.49.
Is Nemotron 3 Ultra or Qwen3.8 27B better for coding?
Qwen3.8 27B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.5 versus 38.1 in the Noometry coding category.
Which has the bigger context window?
Both accept 262K tokens.
How many benchmarks do Nemotron 3 Ultra and Qwen3.8 27B share?
24 benchmarks have published results for both models. Nemotron 3 Ultra has 30 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 27B has 31.