Model comparison

Llama 3-8B vs o1

o1 is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.9 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 25 shared benchmarks.

Llama 3-8B Meta

25.5

Rank #344 Confirmed

o1 OpenAI

40.9

Rank #143 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 25 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-8B scores higher in 0 categories and o1 in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in knowledge, where o1 leads 41.5 to 7.8.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is MATH Level 5: 6.1% for Llama 3-8B and 94.7% for o1.
  • Llama 3-8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Llama 3-8B and o1 specifications
Llama 3-8Bo1
ProviderMetaOpenAI
Noometry Index25.540.9
Released2024-04-182024-09-12
WeightsOpenProprietary
Context window—200K
Max output—100K
Input $ / M tokens—$15
Output $ / M tokens—$60
Results tracked3452

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Category by category

Coding o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 31.0 (#289), o1: 46.1 (#70)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Coding11521367
HumanEval+56.7%89%
MBPP+54.8%80.2%
Aider Polyglot—61.7%
WeirdML—47.6%
BigCodeBench Instruct31.9%—
LiveBench Coding—69.7%
BigCodeBench Complete36.9%—
CadEval—56%

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Llama 3-8B: —, o1: 24.6 (#117)

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
Cybench—10%
METR Time Horizons—51.1%

Reasoning o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 14.3 (#326), o1: 27.9 (#111)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
Chess Puzzles0%15%
LMArena Hard Prompts11331371
DTBench43.9%74.7%
Epoch Capabilities Index116.45141.91
SimpleBench—41.7%
ARC-AGI-1—30.7%
EnigmaEval—5.7%
LiveBench Reasoning—91.6%
LiveBench Data Analysis—65.5%
LMCA—22.3%
Adversarial NLI57.3%—
ForecastBench58.6—
LiveBench—75.7%
WinoGrande75.7%—

Math o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 8.8 (#323), o1: 36.1 (#175)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20251.9%73.3%
LMArena Math11511388
MATH Level 56.1%94.7%
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—14.7%
LiveBench Math—80.3%
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)—9.3%

Knowledge o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 7.8 (#308), o1: 41.5 (#110)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
GPQA Diamond26.1%76.8%
LMArena Expert11131361
Humanity's Last Exam—8%
SimpleQA Verified—41.1%
Confabulations—11.7%
ARC (AI2) Challenge82.8%—
MMLU68.8%—
OpenBookQA82.6%—
TriviaQA67.7%—

Multimodal Not comparable

Llama 3-8B: —, o1: 34.2 (#93)

Multimodal benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Vision—1168
GeoBench—80%
VPCT—37%
SpatialViz-Bench—41.4%

Multilingual o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 30.8 (#261), o1: 48.6 (#142)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Non-English10981358
LMArena Chinese10761394
LMArena French11591344
LMArena German11041337
LMArena Japanese9671346
LMArena Korean10041396
LMArena Russian11091356
LMArena Spanish11731345

Instruction Following o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 58.4 (#260), o1: 74.8 (#86)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Instruction Following11271367
LiveBench Instruction Following—81.5%

Long Context o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 34.2 (#251), o1: 50.3 (#9)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Longer Query11281378
Fiction.LiveBench—83.3%

Writing & Preference o1 leads

Llama 3-8B: 37.5 (#256), o1: 55.6 (#144)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-8Bo1
LMArena Text11661366
LMArena Creative Writing11501348
LMArena Multi-Turn11521369
Short-Story Creative Writing—70.2%
LiveBench Language—65.4%

Frequently asked questions

Is Llama 3-8B better than o1?

o1 is the stronger model overall, scoring 40.9 to 25.5 on the Noometry Index.

Is Llama 3-8B or o1 better for coding?

o1 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 46.1 versus 31.0 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Llama 3-8B and o1 share?

25 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-8B has 34 scored results on Noometry and o1 has 52.

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