Model comparison
Llama 3-70B vs Qwen3 8B
Qwen3 8B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.7 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 4 shared benchmarks.
Meta
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 4 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-70B scores higher in 2 categories and Qwen3 8B in 4 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3 8B leads 34.9 to 12.8.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 4.3% for Llama 3-70B and 56.1% for Qwen3 8B.
Side by side
| Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 28.8 | 33.7 |
| Released | 2024-04-18 | 2025-04 |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $0.18 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $0.70 |
| Results tracked | 31 | 11 |
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Category by category
Coding Llama 3-70B leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.8 (#218), Qwen3 8B: 34.0 (#248)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| SciCode | — | 22.6% |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 43.6% | — |
| LMArena Coding | 1206 | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 54.5% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 72% | — |
| MBPP+ | 69% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Qwen3 8B leads
Llama 3-70B: 21.1 (#139), Qwen3 8B: 30.2 (#78)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard | — | 42.6% |
| Cybench | 5% | — |
Reasoning Llama 3-70B leads
Llama 3-70B: 18.0 (#288), Qwen3 8B: 16.6 (#303)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| DTBench | 54.2% | 59.7% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 122.93 | 136.17 |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 35.1% | — |
| CritPt | — | 0% |
| Chess Puzzles | — | 5% |
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1195 | — |
| LMCA | — | 8.8% |
| ForecastBench | 57.1 | — |
| WinoGrande | 83.5% | — |
Math Qwen3 8B leads
Llama 3-70B: 12.8 (#305), Qwen3 8B: 34.9 (#191)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 4.3% | 56.1% |
| LMArena Math | 1218 | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 22.6% | — |
Knowledge Qwen3 8B leads
Llama 3-70B: 20.8 (#277), Qwen3 8B: 36.1 (#173)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 40.6% | 56.8% |
| Vectara Hallucination Rate | — | 4.8% |
| LMArena Expert | 1149 | — |
| MMLU | 79.3% | — |
Multilingual Not comparable
Llama 3-70B: 33.6 (#251), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1142 | — |
| LMArena Chinese | 1114 | — |
| LMArena French | 1232 | — |
| LMArena German | 1169 | — |
| LMArena Japanese | 1017 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1017 | — |
| LMArena Russian | 1159 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1241 | — |
Instruction Following Not comparable
Llama 3-70B: 62.5 (#238), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1194 | — |
Long Context Qwen3 8B leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.6 (#240), Qwen3 8B: 37.9 (#210)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| Fiction.LiveBench | — | 62.1% |
| LMArena Longer Query | 1174 | — |
Writing & Preference Not comparable
Llama 3-70B: 42.8 (#231), Qwen3 8B: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen3 8B |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1221 | — |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1210 | — |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1223 | — |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3-70B better than Qwen3 8B?
Qwen3 8B is the stronger model overall, scoring 33.7 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Is Llama 3-70B or Qwen3 8B better for coding?
Llama 3-70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 35.8 versus 34.0 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3-70B and Qwen3 8B share?
4 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-70B has 31 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3 8B has 11.