Model comparison
Llama 3-70B vs Qwen2.5 Plus 1127
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.8 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 14 shared benchmarks.
Meta
Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 14 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-70B scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in math, where Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads 36.1 to 12.8.
- Llama 3-70B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Meta | Alibaba (Qwen) |
| Noometry Index | 28.8 | 38.8 |
| Released | 2024-04-18 | — |
| Weights | Open | Proprietary |
| Context window | — | — |
| Max output | — | — |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | — |
| Results tracked | 31 | 14 |
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Category by category
Coding Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.8 (#218), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 38.5 (#175)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1206 | 1314 |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | 43.6% | — |
| BigCodeBench Complete | 54.5% | — |
| HumanEval+ | 72% | — |
| MBPP+ | 69% | — |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Llama 3-70B: 21.1 (#139), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: —
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| Cybench | 5% | — |
Reasoning Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 18.0 (#288), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 25.9 (#141)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1195 | 1299 |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 35.1% | — |
| DTBench | 54.2% | — |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 122.93 | — |
| ForecastBench | 57.1 | — |
| WinoGrande | 83.5% | — |
Math Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 12.8 (#305), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 36.1 (#174)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Math | 1218 | 1298 |
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 4.3% | — |
| MATH Level 5 | 22.6% | — |
Knowledge Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 20.8 (#277), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 35.5 (#183)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Expert | 1149 | 1289 |
| GPQA Diamond | 40.6% | — |
| MMLU | 79.3% | — |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 33.6 (#251), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 41.9 (#201)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1142 | 1265 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1114 | 1314 |
| LMArena German | 1169 | 1231 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1017 | 1207 |
| LMArena Russian | 1159 | 1271 |
| LMArena French | 1232 | — |
| LMArena Korean | 1017 | — |
| LMArena Spanish | 1241 | — |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 62.5 (#238), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 67.2 (#199)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1194 | 1275 |
Long Context Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 35.6 (#240), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 39.2 (#184)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1174 | 1292 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 leads
Llama 3-70B: 42.8 (#231), Qwen2.5 Plus 1127: 49.4 (#192)
| Benchmark | Llama 3-70B | Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1221 | 1299 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1210 | 1262 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1223 | 1299 |
Frequently asked questions
Is Llama 3-70B better than Qwen2.5 Plus 1127?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 is the stronger model overall, scoring 38.8 to 28.8 on the Noometry Index.
Is Llama 3-70B or Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 better for coding?
Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 38.5 versus 35.8 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Llama 3-70B and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 share?
14 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-70B has 31 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 Plus 1127 has 14.