Model comparison

Llama 3-70B vs Qwen1.5-72B

Qwen1.5-72B is the stronger model overall, scoring 30.3 to 28.5 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 22 shared benchmarks.

Llama 3-70B Meta

28.5

Rank #317 Confirmed

Qwen1.5-72B Alibaba (Qwen)

30.3

Rank #282 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 22 benchmarks with published results for both. Llama 3-70B scores higher in 6 categories and Qwen1.5-72B in 2 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen1.5-72B leads 30.7 to 12.0.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is BigCodeBench Complete: 54.5% for Llama 3-70B and 40.3% for Qwen1.5-72B.

Side by side

Llama 3-70B and Qwen1.5-72B specifications
Llama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
ProviderMetaAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index28.530.3
Released2024-04-182024-02-04
WeightsOpenOpen
Context window——
Max output——
Input $ / M tokens——
Output $ / M tokens——
Results tracked3122

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Category by category

Coding Llama 3-70B leads

Llama 3-70B: 35.3 (#215), Qwen1.5-72B: 31.4 (#272)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
BigCodeBench Instruct43.6%33.2%
LMArena Coding12061166
BigCodeBench Complete54.5%40.3%
HumanEval+72%59.1%
MBPP+69%61.6%

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

Llama 3-70B: 20.9 (#132), Qwen1.5-72B: —

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
Cybench5%—

Reasoning Qwen1.5-72B leads

Llama 3-70B: 17.4 (#284), Qwen1.5-72B: 21.2 (#201)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Hard Prompts11951148
Kagi LLM Benchmark35.1%—
DTBench54.2%—
Epoch Capabilities Index122.91—
ForecastBench57.1—
WinoGrande83.5%—

Math Qwen1.5-72B leads

Llama 3-70B: 12.0 (#299), Qwen1.5-72B: 30.7 (#205)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Math12181164
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20254.3%—
MATH Level 522.6%—

Knowledge Llama 3-70B leads

Llama 3-70B: 20.8 (#272), Qwen1.5-72B: 11.5 (#295)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
GPQA Diamond40.6%28.8%
LMArena Expert11491136
MMLU79.3%—

Multilingual Too close to call

Llama 3-70B: 33.8 (#246), Qwen1.5-72B: 33.4 (#248)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Non-English11421135
LMArena Chinese11141186
LMArena French12311158
LMArena German11691084
LMArena Japanese10171061
LMArena Korean10171049
LMArena Russian11591104
LMArena Spanish12411110

Instruction Following Llama 3-70B leads

Llama 3-70B: 62.8 (#233), Qwen1.5-72B: 59.6 (#251)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Instruction Following11941142

Long Context Too close to call

Llama 3-70B: 35.6 (#235), Qwen1.5-72B: 35.0 (#238)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Longer Query11741157

Writing & Preference Llama 3-70B leads

Llama 3-70B: 43.0 (#225), Qwen1.5-72B: 37.4 (#253)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkLlama 3-70BQwen1.5-72B
LMArena Text12211166
LMArena Creative Writing12101137
LMArena Multi-Turn12231160

Frequently asked questions

Is Llama 3-70B better than Qwen1.5-72B?

Qwen1.5-72B is the stronger model overall, scoring 30.3 to 28.5 on the Noometry Index.

Is Llama 3-70B or Qwen1.5-72B better for coding?

Llama 3-70B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 35.3 versus 31.4 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Llama 3-70B and Qwen1.5-72B share?

22 benchmarks have published results for both models. Llama 3-70B has 31 scored results on Noometry and Qwen1.5-72B has 22.

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