Noometry

Model comparison

Grok 4 vs Qwen3 8B

Grok 4 is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.1 to 33.7 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 6 shared benchmarks.

Grok 4 xAI

48.1

Rank #56 Confirmed

Qwen3 8B Alibaba (Qwen)

33.7

Rank #238 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 6 benchmarks with published results for both. Grok 4 scores higher in 6 categories and Qwen3 8B in 0 categories; 6 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in long context, where Grok 4 leads 63.1 to 37.9.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is Fiction.LiveBench: 94.4% for Grok 4 and 62.1% for Qwen3 8B.
  • Qwen3 8B has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.

Side by side

Grok 4Qwen3 8B
ProviderxAIAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index48.133.7
Released2025-07-092025-04
WeightsProprietaryOpen
Context window—131K
Max output—8K
Input $ / M tokens—$0.18
Output $ / M tokens—$0.70
Results tracked4811

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Category by category

Coding Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 50.3 (#46), Qwen3 8B: 34.0 (#248)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
Aider Polyglot79.6%—
SciCode—22.6%
WeirdML45.7%—
LMArena Coding1408—

Agentic & Tool Use Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 32.3 (#68), Qwen3 8B: 30.2 (#78)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard63%42.6%
Terminal-Bench27.2%—
GDPval21.1%—
Cybench43%—
DeepResearch Bench47.3%—
BALROG43.6%—
LMArena Search1142—
METR Time Horizons66.6%—

Reasoning Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 36.7 (#65), Qwen3 8B: 16.6 (#303)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
Chess Puzzles28%5%
Epoch Capabilities Index146.44136.17
ARC-AGI-216%—
SimpleBench60.5%—
Kagi LLM Benchmark73.6%—
ARC-AGI-166.7%—
CritPt—0%
LMArena Hard Prompts1409—
DTBench—59.7%
LMCA—8.8%
ForecastBench60.9—

Math Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 48.4 (#64), Qwen3 8B: 34.9 (#191)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-202584%56.1%
Omni-MATH60.3%—
LMArena Math1422—
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)19.7%—
FrontierMath Tier 4 (v1)2.1%—

Knowledge Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 53.8 (#55), Qwen3 8B: 36.1 (#173)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
GPQA Diamond87%56.8%
MMLU-Pro85.1%—
Confabulations12.4%—
Vectara Hallucination Rate—4.8%
GPQA (HELM)72.7%—
LMArena Expert1415—

Multimodal Not comparable

Grok 4: 33.7 (#94), Qwen3 8B: —

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
LMArena Vision1210—
GeoBench45%—

Multilingual Not comparable

Grok 4: 51.8 (#103), Qwen3 8B: —

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
LMArena Non-English1403—
LMArena Chinese1427—
LMArena French1418—
LMArena German1429—
LMArena Japanese1394—
LMArena Korean1377—
LMArena Russian1410—
LMArena Spanish1420—

Instruction Following Not comparable

Grok 4: 79.2 (#5), Qwen3 8B: —

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
IFEval94.9%—
LMArena Instruction Following1387—

Long Context Grok 4 leads

Grok 4: 63.1 (#4), Qwen3 8B: 37.9 (#210)

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
Fiction.LiveBench94.4%62.1%
LMArena Longer Query1409—

Writing & Preference Not comparable

Grok 4: 58.5 (#116), Qwen3 8B: —

BenchmarkGrok 4Qwen3 8B
LMArena Text1411—
LMArena Creative Writing1397—
Short-Story Creative Writing76.9%—
WildBench79.7%—
LMArena Multi-Turn1416—

Frequently asked questions

Is Grok 4 better than Qwen3 8B?

Grok 4 is the stronger model overall, scoring 48.1 to 33.7 on the Noometry Index.

Is Grok 4 or Qwen3 8B better for coding?

Grok 4 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 50.3 versus 34.0 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do Grok 4 and Qwen3 8B share?

6 benchmarks have published results for both models. Grok 4 has 48 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3 8B has 11.

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