Noometry

Model comparison

GPT-4 vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 24 shared benchmarks.

GPT-4 OpenAI

29.1

Rank #316 Confirmed

Qwen3.8 Max Alibaba (Qwen)

56.8

Rank #22 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 24 benchmarks with published results for both. GPT-4 scores higher in 0 categories and Qwen3.8 Max in 8 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in math, where Qwen3.8 Max leads 73.2 to 10.8.
  • The biggest single-benchmark swing is OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025: 1.1% for GPT-4 and 100% for Qwen3.8 Max.
  • Qwen3.8 Max is cheaper at $2 / $6 per million input/output tokens, against $30 / $60 for GPT-4.
  • Qwen3.8 Max accepts more context: 1M tokens versus 8K.

Side by side

GPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
ProviderOpenAIAlibaba (Qwen)
Noometry Index29.156.8
Released2023-03-142026-08-02
WeightsProprietaryProprietary
Context window8K1M
Max output8K131K
Input $ / M tokens$30$2
Output $ / M tokens$60$6
Results tracked3839

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Category by category

Coding Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 31.6 (#283), Qwen3.8 Max: 53.5 (#29)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Coding12541502
DeepSWE—57.5%
LMArena WebDev—1674
FrontierSWE—17.8%
SciCode—53.2%
WeirdML12.4%—
BigCodeBench Instruct46%—
BigCodeBench Complete57.2%—
HumanEval+79.3%—

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

GPT-4: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 45.4 (#14)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
APEX-Agents—63.3%
τ²-bench Banking—55.1%
GDP.pdf—23.2%
METR Time Horizons36.1%—

Reasoning Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 17.8 (#289), Qwen3.8 Max: 54.4 (#26)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
Chess Puzzles4%40%
LMArena Hard Prompts12411496
Mystery Game Puzzles12%38%
DTBench62.7%92%
LMCA17.1%46.2%
Epoch Capabilities Index125.89156.41
NYT Connections (extended)—88.3%
CritPt—20%
BIG-Bench Hard75.1%—
ForecastBench57.8—
HellaSwag95.3%—
WinoGrande87.5%—

Math Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 10.8 (#309), Qwen3.8 Max: 73.2 (#20)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-20251.1%100%
LMArena Math12691499
FrontierMath (Tiers 1-3)—74.7%
FrontierMath Tier 4—46.3%
ProofBench—58%
MATH Level 523%—
GSM8K92%—

Knowledge Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 18.4 (#282), Qwen3.8 Max: 61.7 (#27)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
GPQA Diamond35.7%92.7%
LMArena Expert12111507
SimpleQA Verified—47.3%
MMLU86.4%—
TriviaQA84.8%—

Multimodal Not comparable

GPT-4: —, Qwen3.8 Max: 37.2 (#75)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Vision—1314
Furniture Assembly—20%

Multilingual Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 40.6 (#215), Qwen3.8 Max: 56.7 (#18)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Non-English12461472
LMArena Chinese12421538
LMArena French12831503
LMArena German12511483
LMArena Japanese12091467
LMArena Korean11841461
LMArena Russian12511481
LMArena Spanish12611492

Instruction Following Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 65.3 (#222), Qwen3.8 Max: 77.6 (#17)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Instruction Following12411479

Long Context Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 37.7 (#212), Qwen3.8 Max: 45.6 (#31)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Longer Query12441489

Writing & Preference Qwen3.8 Max leads

GPT-4: 34.9 (#268), Qwen3.8 Max: 67.1 (#30)

BenchmarkGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max
LMArena Text12631483
LMArena Creative Writing12441479
LMArena Multi-Turn12571489
EQ-Bench Creative Writing752—

Frequently asked questions

Is GPT-4 better than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is the stronger model overall, scoring 56.8 to 29.1 on the Noometry Index.

Which is cheaper, GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is cheaper. It lists at $2 per million input tokens and $6 per million output tokens; GPT-4 lists at $30 and $60.

Is GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?

Qwen3.8 Max scores higher on coding benchmarks: 53.5 versus 31.6 in the Noometry coding category.

Which has the bigger context window?

Qwen3.8 Max does, with 1M tokens against 8K.

How many benchmarks do GPT-4 and Qwen3.8 Max share?

24 benchmarks have published results for both models. GPT-4 has 38 scored results on Noometry and Qwen3.8 Max has 39.

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