Model comparison
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.5 to 29.7 on the Noometry Index.
Last verified . 20 shared benchmarks.
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Alibaba (Qwen)Summary
- They share 20 benchmarks with published results for both. Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B scores higher in 1 category and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct in 7 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
- The widest gap is in knowledge, where Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads 26.9 to 16.0.
- The biggest single-benchmark swing is GPQA Diamond: 33% for Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B and 49.1% for Qwen2.5 72B Instruct.
- Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has downloadable open weights; the other is API-only.
Side by side
| Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct | |
|---|---|---|
| Provider | Alibaba (Qwen) | |
| Noometry Index | 29.7 | 31.5 |
| Released | 2024-10-03 | 2024-09 |
| Weights | Proprietary | Open |
| Context window | — | 131K |
| Max output | — | 8K |
| Input $ / M tokens | — | $1.40 |
| Output $ / M tokens | — | $5.60 |
| Results tracked | 21 | 43 |
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Category by category
Coding Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 34.9 (#221), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 32.8 (#256)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Coding | 1218 | 1293 |
| WeirdML | — | 16% |
| BigCodeBench Instruct | — | 45.8% |
| BigCodeBench Complete | — | 55.9% |
Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: —, Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 22.0 (#124)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| TheAgentCompany | — | 5.7% |
| BALROG | — | 16.2% |
| METR Time Horizons | — | 35.8% |
Reasoning Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 19.2 (#242), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 21.4 (#197)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Hard Prompts | 1210 | 1271 |
| DTBench | 50% | 62.9% |
| LMCA | — | 13.4% |
| BIG-Bench Hard | — | 79.8% |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | — | 129.01 |
| ForecastBench | — | 57.5 |
| HellaSwag | — | 84.8% |
| PIQA | — | 82.6% |
| WinoGrande | — | 82.3% |
Math Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 13.3 (#296), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 18.1 (#281)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 | 4.6% | 8.1% |
| LMArena Math | 1207 | 1283 |
| Omni-MATH | — | 33% |
| MATH Level 5 | — | 63.2% |
Knowledge Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 16.0 (#285), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 26.9 (#247)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 33% | 49.1% |
| LMArena Expert | 1185 | 1245 |
| MMLU-Pro | — | 63.1% |
| Confabulations | — | 19.1% |
| GPQA (HELM) | — | 42.6% |
| ARC (AI2) Challenge | — | 94.5% |
| MMLU | — | 85.3% |
| TriviaQA | — | 71.9% |
Multimodal Not comparable
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 27.6 (#110), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: —
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | 1044 | — |
Multilingual Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 38.6 (#224), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 41.2 (#208)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Non-English | 1215 | 1252 |
| LMArena Chinese | 1231 | 1272 |
| LMArena French | 1233 | 1279 |
| LMArena German | 1206 | 1234 |
| LMArena Japanese | 1150 | 1180 |
| LMArena Korean | 1140 | 1188 |
| LMArena Russian | 1236 | 1264 |
| LMArena Spanish | 1212 | 1255 |
Instruction Following Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 63.1 (#231), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 65.7 (#216)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Instruction Following | 1199 | 1254 |
| IFEval | — | 80.6% |
Long Context Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 36.9 (#220), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 38.9 (#183)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Longer Query | 1219 | 1282 |
Writing & Preference Qwen2.5 72B Instruct leads
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B: 43.0 (#227), Qwen2.5 72B Instruct: 46.9 (#210)
| Benchmark | Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B | Qwen2.5 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1226 | 1269 |
| LMArena Creative Writing | 1218 | 1221 |
| LMArena Multi-Turn | 1185 | 1272 |
| WildBench | — | 80.2% |
Frequently asked questions
Is Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B better than Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is the stronger model overall, scoring 31.5 to 29.7 on the Noometry Index.
Is Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B or Qwen2.5 72B Instruct better for coding?
Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B scores higher on coding benchmarks: 34.9 versus 32.8 in the Noometry coding category.
How many benchmarks do Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct share?
20 benchmarks have published results for both models. Gemini 1.5 Flash 8B has 21 scored results on Noometry and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has 43.