Model comparison

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b vs DeepSeek-V3

DeepSeek-V3 is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.5 to 34.9 on the Noometry Index.

Last verified . 15 shared benchmarks.

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b Cohere

34.9

Rank #229 Confirmed

DeepSeek-V3 DeepSeek

39.5

Rank #166 Confirmed

Summary

  • They share 15 benchmarks with published results for both. C4ai Aya Expanse 8b scores higher in 3 categories and DeepSeek-V3 in 5 categories; 8 gaps are clear of the uncertainty.
  • The widest gap is in writing & preference, where DeepSeek-V3 leads 57.4 to 39.0.

Side by side

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b and DeepSeek-V3 specifications
C4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
ProviderCohereDeepSeek
Noometry Index34.939.5
Released—2024-12-26
WeightsOpenOpen
Context window—164K
Max output—164K
Input $ / M tokens—$0.24
Output $ / M tokens—$0.90
Results tracked1560

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Category by category

Coding DeepSeek-V3 leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.8 (#252), DeepSeek-V3: 42.3 (#106)

Coding benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Coding11601368
Aider Polyglot—55.1%
SciCode—35.8%
WeirdML—36.1%
BigCodeBench Instruct—50%
LiveBench Coding—70.9%
BigCodeBench Complete—62.2%
HumanEval+—86.6%
MBPP+—73%

Agentic & Tool Use Not comparable

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: —, DeepSeek-V3: —

Agentic & Tool Use benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
METR Time Horizons—49.6%

Reasoning C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 22.4 (#197), DeepSeek-V3: 20.5 (#236)

Reasoning benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Hard Prompts11561365
SimpleBench—27.2%
Kagi LLM Benchmark—52.3%
CritPt—0%
LiveBench Reasoning—65.8%
DTBench—64.8%
LiveBench Data Analysis—60.9%
LMCA—15.5%
BIG-Bench Hard—87.5%
Epoch Capabilities Index—135.94
ForecastBench—59.1
HellaSwag—88.9%
LiveBench—66.9%
PIQA—84.7%
WinoGrande—85.2%

Math C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.3 (#203), DeepSeek-V3: 32.1 (#219)

Math benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Math11681373
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025—37.8%
Omni-MATH—40.3%
LiveBench Math—73.5%
MATH Level 5—75.5%
FrontierMath (Feb 2025 set)—1.7%

Knowledge DeepSeek-V3 leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 33.6 (#201), DeepSeek-V3: 37.5 (#155)

Knowledge benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
Vectara Hallucination Rate9.5%6.1%
LMArena Expert11531351
GPQA Diamond—67.6%
MMLU-Pro—72.3%
Confabulations—26.1%
GPQA (HELM)—53.8%
ARC (AI2) Challenge—95.3%
MMLU—87.2%
TriviaQA—82.9%

Multilingual DeepSeek-V3 leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 36.1 (#242), DeepSeek-V3: 48.5 (#143)

Multilingual benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Non-English11801358
LMArena Chinese11811391
LMArena German11881374
LMArena Japanese11201333
LMArena Russian11971373
LMArena French—1385
LMArena Korean—1319
LMArena Spanish—1358

Instruction Following DeepSeek-V3 leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 60.1 (#253), DeepSeek-V3: 72.8 (#130)

Instruction Following benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Instruction Following11551345
LiveBench Instruction Following—81.5%
IFEval—83.2%

Long Context C4ai Aya Expanse 8b leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 36.1 (#236), DeepSeek-V3: 34.0 (#253)

Long Context benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Longer Query11911352
Fiction.LiveBench—50%

Writing & Preference DeepSeek-V3 leads

C4ai Aya Expanse 8b: 39.0 (#250), DeepSeek-V3: 57.4 (#130)

Writing & Preference benchmarks
BenchmarkC4ai Aya Expanse 8bDeepSeek-V3
LMArena Text11851375
LMArena Creative Writing11681364
LMArena Multi-Turn11601389
Short-Story Creative Writing—77%
EQ-Bench Creative Writing—1472
WildBench—83%
LiveBench Language—49.1%

Frequently asked questions

Is C4ai Aya Expanse 8b better than DeepSeek-V3?

DeepSeek-V3 is the stronger model overall, scoring 39.5 to 34.9 on the Noometry Index.

Is C4ai Aya Expanse 8b or DeepSeek-V3 better for coding?

DeepSeek-V3 scores higher on coding benchmarks: 42.3 versus 33.8 in the Noometry coding category.

How many benchmarks do C4ai Aya Expanse 8b and DeepSeek-V3 share?

15 benchmarks have published results for both models. C4ai Aya Expanse 8b has 15 scored results on Noometry and DeepSeek-V3 has 60.

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